RE: Letter to IEEE 802 SEC
Bob,
We did exactly what Paul suggested regarding Roger's remarks. The letters
have been rewritten and clearly mark the Working Groups as information
providers, but because the Working Groups have no mandate to correspond to
this level, the sender needs to be IEEE 802.
If you visit our website, you will find a link to the page where I put all
relevant material, including the various versions of the letters, the
minutes and the input from HomeRF.
Regarding the minority view, the FCC process is to get all parties to file
their own position. Anybody can file, so also those companies. In fact
HomeRF already filed on September 8, 1999.
We invited the HomeRF WG at our meeting, The Technical Chair presented for
more than one hour (he had to leave), the whole 1 and a half hour was
devoted to the HomeRF group. Nevertheless, you saw the voting result as
shown: The vote of the WG WLAN to submit this letter to the FCC was 18 Yes,
0 No and 0 Abstain. WG WPAN unanimously passed a motion to support WLAN. At
the Letter Ballot among the full WG WLAN the decision was approved by 68
Yes, 3 No, 3 Abstain votes. The Committee's Executive Committee voted to
submit this document by a vote of 11 Yes, 1 No and 2 Abstain.
If the minority would be at the 25 % level, you would have some right in
saying that the minority view needs to be viewed at. But with just 4.25 %, I
do not see a reason to reflect the minority view.
Thanks. Vic
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> From: rdlove@us.ibm.com[SMTP:rdlove@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 12:37
> To: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: RE: Letter to IEEE 802 SEC
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> I am much more comfortable with Paul's recommendations than with the words
> in
> the letters presented to us and could support submitting such re-written
> letters.
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> Best regards.
>
> Robert D. Love
> Program Manager, IBM ACS - US
> Chair IEEE 802.5 Token Ring Working Group
> IBM
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> Paul Nikolich <p.nikolich@ieee.org> on 10/03/99 08:54:27 PM
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> To: "THALER,PAT (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <pat_thaler@am.exch.hp.com>, Jim
> Carlo
> <jcarlo@ti.com>, IEEE802 <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
> cc:
> Subject: RE: Letter to IEEE 802 SEC
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> Colleagues,
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> I agree with Pat, the letter has misinterpreted the SA rules and
> procedures. Liaison letters aren't the same as standards. I don't agree
> with the request the letter from HomeRF that 802 issue another leetter
> rebutting our original position not in favor of the WBFH NPRM.
>
> We should issue a letter to the FCC indicating the 802.11 and 802.15
> committee's concern with the proposed rules changes for reasons along the
> lines articulated by Roger Marks--and we should make it clear it comes
> from
> a subcommittee within 802.11, 802's wireless LAN working group. It also
> would be a good idea to at least mention what rationale for the minority
> position within 802.11 is. The objective here is to fairly represent both
> points of view developed within 802.
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> --Paul
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> At 10:42 AM 10/1/99 -0600, THALER,PAT (HP-Roseville,ex1) wrote:
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> >Jim and colleagues,
> >
> >The letter submitted to Jim claims procedural flaws in part by reading
> the
> >IEEE Standards Bylaws which apply to approval of standards as applying to
> >the approval of these letters. I strongly disagree with such a position.
> >The letters are liaison letters which are greatly different from
> standards
> >both in their impact and in the time constraints on their development and
> >the IEEE has separate rules for the approval of liaison positions.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Pat
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Carlo [mailto:jcarlo@ti.com]
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:50 AM
> >To: IEEE802
> >Subject: Letter to IEEE 802 SEC
> >
> >
> >I receive the following letter form several companies regarding the
> ongoing
> >vote for submitting two letters to the FCC. It is late at night, so I
> have
> >not read the material, but am simply passing the information.
> >
> >Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> >Chair, ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 Telecom and Info Exchange Between Systems
> >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Berger, Stephen [mailto:Stephen.Berger@icn.siemens.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:32 PM
> >To: Carlo, Jim (E-mail)
> >Subject: Letter to IEEE 802 SEC
> >
> >
> >Jim,
> >
> >I would like to thank you for this opportunity to address the SEC on this
> >important issue. Attached is the letter I told you we would be sending.
> I
> >will look forward to working with you and a speedy resoluion to this
> >question.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Stephen
> >
> > <<Letter to 802 SEC - v4.doc>>
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