Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC Consent Agenda - 17 November 2023 - IEEE 802.19 item +++

["Law, David" <dlaw@HPE.COM>]

Dear all,
 
I think there may be some confusion concerning this agenda request being annotated '... to NesCom (48-hour rule)'. I believe that the IEEE P802.19.3a draft PAR and CSD were submitted to the IEEE 802 LMSC reflector on 18 September 2023 <https://ieee802.org/secmail/msg28710.html>, meeting the 30-day submission deadline, and the IEEE P802.19.3a PAR and CSD are listed on the 'IEEE 802 PARs & ICAIDs under consideration' page <https://ieee802.org/PARs.shtml> for the November 2023 plenary. I believe the IEEE 802.19 Working Group responded to comments submitted earlier today <https://ieee802.org/secmail/msg28902.html>, before the 18h30 deadline.
 
As a result, I do not believe that this PAR and CSD are being submitted under IEEE 802 LMSC Operations Manual subclause 9.2 'IEEE 802 LMSC approval' <https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0090-26-0PNP-ieee-802-lmsc-operations-manual.pdf#page=19> 'Expedited Review process' (48-hour rule), but instead has correctly followed the subclause 9.2 'Plenary Review process'. Perhaps this annotation was an error or was in reference to requesting consent agenda items 48 hours in advance of the start of the IEEE 802 LMSC closing plenary agenda.
 
Regardless, while I agree the consent agenda request was made too late, I believe this PAR and CSD submittal have correctly followed the subclause 9.2 'Plenary Review process' and should be placed on the IEEE 802 LMSC closing plenary agenda. I am, therefore, requesting that the IEEE P802.19.3a PAR and CSD be placed on the November 2023 IEEE 802 LMSC closing plenary agenda.
 
Thanks, and best regards,
  David

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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC Consent Agenda - 17 November 2023 - IEEE 802.19 item +++

However, he also cited the 48 hour rule, which has the same deadline.

Cheers, 

Roger
On Nov 15, 2023, 2:55 PM -1000, John D'Ambrosia <mailto:jdambrosia@gmail.com>, wrote:

Jon
Hit send by accident
His request was to be on the consent agenda
 
I didn’t say he couldn’t be on the agenda – just missed the deadline to be on the consent agenda.
 
John
 
From: Jon Rosdahl <mailto:jrosdahl@ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 2:52 PM
To: John D'Ambrosia <mailto:jdambrosia@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC Consent Agenda - 17 November 2023 - IEEE 802.19 item +++
 
John, he just wants to be on the agenda.
Not consent.
Jon

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On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 4:54 PM John D'Ambrosia <mailto:jdambrosia@gmail.com> wrote:
Please discuss with the 802 chair
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On Nov 15, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Tuncer Baykas <mailto:tbaykas@ieee.org> wrote:

Hi John,
Can we have a 10 day electronic motion?
Best regards,
Tuncer
 
 
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 13:41 John D'Ambrosia <mailto:jdambrosia@gmail.com> wrote:
Tuncer
The announced deadline for submitting consent agenda item requests is 1pm.  You missed the request deadline
 
Regards
 
John
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On Nov 15, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Tuncer Baykas <mailto:tbaykas@ieee.org> wrote:

Hi John,

I'd like to request the following IEEE 802.19 item be placed on the Friday 17 November 2023 IEEE 802 LMSC meeting consent agenda.


ME*:  IEEE P802.19.3a Coexistence Methods for IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.15.4 Based Systems Operating in the Sub-1 GHz Frequency Bands Amendment: Additional recommendations for improving coexistence  to NesCom  (48-hour rule)

Motion:
Approve forwarding IEEE P802.19.3a PAR documentation in < : https://mentor.ieee.org/802.19/dcn/23/19-23-0017-03-0000-19-3a-par-draft.pdf> to NesCom

 
Thank you,
Tuncer
 
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