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David, Jon, I believe the current wording fixed a number of ambiguities I found in the previous version. (I frequently have problems mentally using the more ambiguous rules in place for decades rather than the current rules.) A couple of corner cases using real dates follow (today, the last four plenaries being Jul21, Nov21, Mar22, and Jul22 with interims on the other odd numbered months): 1. Credited Attendance is only Jul22 and Sep22 (interim) — That participant is eligible to become a member in Nov22. because of the definition of recent interim. WG P&P 4.2 includes: "A declaration of intent to the Chair of the Working Group may also be required in a Working Group to gain membership. Membership starts at the third Plenary Session attended by the participant.” Ambiguity for this case is linked to how the WG implements the “declaration of intent”. For example it could be an issue for a WG letter ballot opened during the plenary week. The solution—don’t do that. The second ambiguity is “Plenary Session attended by the participant” does not specify WG attendance, only Plenary Session attendance — be careful in how a WG implements “declaration of intent". The WG P&P rules clearly separate attendance and Credited Attendance thus allowing the new member to vote during the 3rd plenary. 2. Credited Attendance only in Jul21 and Sep21. The participant is eligible to become a member in Nov22, and would be able to vote during the Plenary Session. A WG ballot initiated during the plenary would include the participant as a member of the ballot group (assuming optional requesting membership requirements are met). A WG ballot initiated after the Nov22 plenary would not include the new member as the Jul21 and Sep21 are no longer within the window of the last four plenary meetings. So, the membership lasted last than one week. The LMSC OM 5.1 says a plenary is bounded by the Opening and Closing LMSC meeting. (A logical interpretation would be the call to order of the Opening LMSC meeting and adjournment of the Closing LMSC meeting.) To me, that means the window for the “last four” Plenary Sessions moves at adjournment of the closing EC meeting. I find nothing that prevents evaluation of attendance or ballot participation at any time. This was the fundamental principal in my suggestion that a Chair could grant membership and subsequently remove a participant "by rule”, not by “whim” of the Chair, by evaluating attendance after opening of a WG ballot. Loss of WG membership does not remove one from a ballot group because we are to be consistent with SASB SA ballot procedures. Even if the evaluation of the attendance credit were specified, without the ability to remove membership by rule, after the Chair grants membership to someone, a granted membership would would be removed — not when the person granted membership stops contributing to the WG, retires, etc. —Bob
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