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Re: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

G’day all

 

Apologies, I have no idea how the link below sneaked into my e-mail. It was supposed to say (without the link)

 

We should, of course, explore all options for alternatives to F2F meetings, particularly as I suspect they will not be practical for most of this year (at least).

 

However, I very much doubt that hybrid meetings are a viable solution. They introduce a power imbalance (between those at the meeting and those not) that cannot be overcome by any tools I know of.

 

I note that we are still struggling to make on-line meetings work well. Why do we think that it is possible to make hybrid meetings, which are so much more difficult, work well?

 

I suggest we focus on making on-line meetings the best we possibly can. We may even discover that F2F meetings are not as necessary as we currently believe.

 

Andrew

 

From: Andrew Myles (amyles)
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2021 9:44 AM
To: 'jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM' <jdambrosia@GMAIL.COM>; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

G’day all

 

We should of course explore all options for alternatives to F2F meetings, particularly as I suspect they will not be practical for most of this year (at least).

 

However, I very doubt that hybrid meetings are a viable solution. They introduce a power imbalance (between those at the meeting and those not) https://wiki.cisco.com/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=642591637 that cannot be overcome by any tools I know of.

 

I note that we are still struggling to make on-line meetings work. Why do we think that it is possible to make hybrid meetings, which are so much more difficult, work well?

 

I suggest we focus on making on-line meetings the best we possibly can. We may even discover that F2F meetings are not as necessary as we currently believe (or hope)

 

Andrew

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> On Behalf Of John D'Ambrosia
Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2021 11:32 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

All,

I see this matter as very important for us to start thinking about now.

 

There has been a lot of debate about when 802 will get back to being able to meet F2F.  It is unclear to me what the 802 EC approved criteria is on this matter, though some may have their opinions.  It is unclear to me, however that all individuals wishing to return to F2F meeting will be able to at the same time, due to country (departing / arriving) travel restrictions, or company travel / budget restrictions. 

 

Therefore, in order to ensure an open process, my own personal belief is we need to be prepared for hybrid meetings.  This thread talks about the tools.  Fine that is part of the equation.

 

However, we also need to understand cost issues – will the network resources we provide at our meetings be able to support this?  Will we need more BW in/ out of the meeting given the multiple meetings that occur.  What rule modifications do we need to consider?

 

Personally, I see this as a bigger immediate issue that the current restructuring ad hoc, as we need to be prepared for our current structure to support what I foresee as being inevitable.

 

My $0.02.

 

John

 

From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> On Behalf Of paul.nikolich
Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 8:52 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

Dear EC, 

See the below status update from Erin.  Regards,

 --Paul

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Erin Spiewak <e.spiewak@ieee.org>

Date: 2/5/21 18:56 (GMT-05:00)

To: "paul.nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>

Subject: Re: Fw: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

Hi Paul,

 

The SA Central Services team, led by Mary Lynne, is working in conjunction with MCE on evaluating tools to be used for virtual/hybrid meetings.  The prime focus of SA has been virtual tools (assessing different suppliers for webinars, workshops, and live/pre-recorded exhibitor booth sessions, etc).  SA is awaiting further info from MCE regarding the hybrid platform/supplier specifics and will then evaluate.  I will keep you updated as we gain information. 

Also, you may be aware of this already, MCE has some tips and considerations when the time comes to consider Hybrid, which can be found here.  

 

Have a nice weekend,
Erin

 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:48 PM paul.nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:

OK, thank you for the update.

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Erin Spiewak <e.spiewak@ieee.org>

Date: 2/4/21 19:34 (GMT-05:00)

To: Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net>

Subject: Re: Fw: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

Hi Paul,


I just subscribed to the 802 EC reflector through Listserv, so I should be good to go moving forward.   

 

Regarding the Hybrid meetings, I will follow up tomorrow as I am just waiting for some additional information from Mary Lynne's team who is looking into this.


Thank you,
Erin

 

 

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:00 PM Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:

Erin,

 

I think you are on the 802 EC reflector, but just in case you aren't please respond to the below request for a status update.  We need to get you on the 802 EC reflector if you aren't on it, please let me know.

 

Thank you,

 

--Paul

 

------ Forwarded Message ------

From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>

Sent: 2/3/2021 12:30:54 PM

Subject: [802SEC] SA support for hybrid meetings -- status update request

 

Dear Erin,

 

At the December 802/SA task force meeting you took the action to ask Adam Newman if the SA can support hybrid meetings for the 802 LMSC.  Please provide an update on the status of that discussion.

 

Thank you and regards,

 

--Paul

 

 

c.    hybrid meetings – no plans to support from the SA,
Erin Action Item – will ask Adam Newman if this is something that can be supported?
-- should begin investigation immediately
-- plenary’s have professional audio support
-- need to keep in mind, we need to support many simultaneous meetings, this could become prohibitively expensive
-- things have changed this year, hybrid capabilities have improved a lot recently, we need to kick off a study
-- hybrid meetings are a reality we need to pay attention to.  A list of requirements should be developed – what are we looking for?
-- we need to understand the capabilities of hybrid meeting platforms, we need to kick off an examination of hybrid meeting requirements and viability.

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