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Thank you, Dorothy, this is helpful. I’m inclined to think that members who require rationalization generally should answer no, because we can’t really count on support. They might be convinced, but may not be, but they should understand
that we charge to offset actual expenses (see below if you want more detail). All – there are many ways to process this data, so far what I’ve seen, the group has gotten access to the data itself. Getting any contextual discussion, as Dorothy has done, helps (at least my) understanding of the underlying assumptions.
Some, like Glenn, may look for single meeting mode with the most support, whereas others, like Roger, may look at the lowest meeting number for which cumulative support exceeds 50%. Ultimately, these are perspective of the reader – the
data is the data – so providing the raw data and context is very useful. It is my opinion that it is important that we get the information in the context of willingness to pay in amounts of $150 or more, at least for the near term. Having an affirmative answer with a supposition that the collected amount is
$50-$100 generally doesn’t help in light of the fact that $50 is what we pay face-to-face in the event of an individual cancellation. In some side discussions, it has become clear to me that we need to be thinking about this as two different modes. This is important, at least for the reason that our superior rules limit what we can charge for.
Based on our ad hoc meeting yesterday I will be putting together information on several scenarios for the finances of a reduced number of face-to-face meetings for 802 for the EC to review. I urge patience in this process. -george From: Stanley, Dorothy <dorothy.stanley@hpe.com> Hello George, The WG11 Closing Plenary was held on Thursday, 2020-07-16 from 9-11AM Eastern. We conducted one straw poll related to the electronic plenaries, results shown below. During the discussion, questions on the topics of incurred costs for electronic plenaries, and the expected amount of the registration fee were raised. Costs and fees in the range of $50 - $150 were estimated by some, for teleconference facilities for example. Also discussed was the likelihood of the fee varying by session, depending on venue cancellation fees. One member indicated that in the absence of a fee amount and the rationale, the member had to vote no. A question was also raised relating to paying for ongoing teleconference facilities. I am happy to poll the 802.11 membership on this and related topics in the future and suggest that we also provide
Thanks, Dorothy ======================== Are you willing to pay a registration fee for participation in electronic meetings held in place of plenary and interim face-to-face meetings? Yes = 159 No = 56 Abstain = 46 No Response = 47 ------------------------ Dorothy Stanley Hewlett Packard Enterprise +1 630-363-1389 From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]
On Behalf Of George Zimmerman Chairs – with regards to the questions for your groups, I suggest the following questions be asked. It will help us to collate the results, and to focus the responses. Please pay attention to the discrete choices given, because free-form
results could make understanding the answers difficult. Thank you, -george 1. Given that IEEE 802 incurs significant expenses cancelling (plenary) face-to-face meetings, it has been suggested that a meeting fee might be charged for attendance at electronic meetings substituting for those face-to-face plenaries.
What would you consider the highest reasonable and fair registration fee range to be: (select one) a. $800-$500 b. $500-$300 c. $150-$300 d. My employer/sponsor is unwilling to pay meeting fees for electronic meetings. 2. Once government and company restrictions have been lifted, what do you perceive as the reasonable number of face to face meetings (plenaries and interims) per year? 6 (pre-2020 amount, 3 plenaries, 3 interims): (below, the division between plenaries and interims is TBD) 4: 3: < 3: George Zimmerman, Ph.D. President & Principal CME Consulting, Inc. Experts in Advanced PHYsical Communications 310-920-3860 To unsubscribe from the STDS-802-SEC list, click the following link:
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