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Re: [802SEC] Recommended Changes to the Chairs Guidelines

+1 Roger's grammar change (thanks)

By "802 wireless standards" I was thinking this includes draft standards. And by "draft" I meant drafts that have reached the balloting stage (technically complete).  I would support a wording change to make that clear.


On 7/8/2020 3:38 PM, Roger Marks wrote:
Seems like a step in the right direction, but the meaning is ambiguous due to the grammar. It should be:

The CA document shall include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in the same frequency bands as the new standard under development. The CA document should also include a list of market-relevant implementations outside of IEEE 802, which that operate in these frequency bands. The CA document may include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in adjacent frequency bands.

Also, I'd like to understand why non-802 implementations are included in-band but draft standards are not.

Cheers,

Roger
On Jul 8, 2020, 4:30 PM -0600, Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@blindcreek.com>, wrote:

FWIW I think Geoff's suggested wording more accurately fits what was intended (speaking as only one individual with "intent"). THe suggestion is to to think about anything likely to impact coexistence.

Thanks Geoff

Ben

On 7/8/2020 8:46 AM, Steve Shellhammer wrote:

Geoff,

 

                Thanks.  That is a good input.   We had lots of discussion on the text for the Chairs Guidelines.   I expect when the Rules Committee has time to take this up we will discuss it more.  I can make edits and revise the document as needed.

 

                The 802.19 WG asked that they receive a copy of the updates, since this was discussed quite a bit in the WG, with lots of representation of the various wireless WGs, so they are interested in any revisions.

 

                I will made a revision with your proposed change and posted it.

 

                https://mentor.ieee.org/802.19/dcn/19/19-19-0078-01-0000-recommended-new-section-of-chairs-guidelines.docx

 

All,

 

                When the WG voted on this document, we received a number of comments. I sent out the link to those comments back in November, but I realized I did not send them out yesterday.  Here is a link to the comments received when voting on this document.   The Rules Committee may want to consider these comments.

 

                https://mentor.ieee.org/802.19/dcn/19/19-19-0086-00-0000-comments-on-recommended-new-section-of-chairs-guidelines.xlsx

 

Regards,

Steve

 

From: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>
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Cc: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Recommended Changes to the Chairs Guidelines

 

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Steve-

 

I think/believe that the wording may need to be changed.  To wit, the text that says:

The CA document shall include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in the same frequency bands as the new standard under development. The CA document should also include a list of market-relevant standards outside of IEEE 802, which operate in these frequency bands. The CA document may include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in adjacent frequency bands.

 

needs to say:

The CA document shall include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in the same frequency bands as the new standard under development. The CA document should also include a list of market-relevant implementations outside of IEEE 802, which operate in these frequency bands. The CA document may include a list of the active IEEE 802 wireless standards operating in adjacent frequency bands.

 

Not everything out there is a standard.  Some things just occupy spectrum on an either licensed or unlicensed basis but actually operate on a proprietary basis. 

 

Best regards,

 

                Geoff Thompson

 

 

On Jul 7, 2020, at 11:25 AMPDT, Steve Shellhammer <sshellha@QTI.QUALCOMM.COM> wrote:

 

James,

 

                Here are the recommended changes to the Chairs Guidelines.

 

 

Regards,

Steve

 

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