Re: [802SEC] Comment on IEEE P8023.ca

["Law, David" <dlaw@HPE.COM>]

Hi Geoff,

Please see the follow up email I sent you approximately one hour after the one you reference below.

In that email I acknowledged that you flipped your vote in error on IEEE P802.3ca ballot, that your intent was to flip you vote on IEEE P802.3ch instead, and that you would not be doing any of this if not for the defect in the myProject system that blocked you from voting several hours before the close of ballot.

Based on this I offer to record your comments as 'Must be Satisfied' in our tools, and in the resultant comment database that we will publish, regardless of your recorded vote in the myProject application. That, however, will not be any help if there is a recirculation, or in the RevCom submittal, where you will be recorded as an Approve, the comment will not be recorded as 'Must be Satisfied', and will therefore not be in scope.

I therefore request that you work with Jodi to have your vote restored to Disapprove for IEEE P802.3ca in the myProject application.

Thanks and best regards,
  David

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From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:thompson@ieee.org] 
Sent: 17 February 2020 16:40
To: Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com>
Cc: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>; Adam Healey <adam.healey@broadcom.com> <adam.healey@broadcom.com>; Curtis Knittle <c.knittle@cablelabs.com> <c.knittle@cablelabs.com>; Glen Kramer <glen.kramer@broadcom.com>; Marek Hajduczenia <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com> <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com>; Steven B. Carlson <scarlson@hspdesign.com>; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: Comment on IEEE P8023.ca

David-

My belief is that this "feature" of the new myProject has the potential to effectively disenfranchise members of the balloting group from effectively participating in voting on changes to the draft during recirculation cycles.
I believe that this is fundamentally unfair.
I believe that this does not conform to the SA P&P

I dearly hope that:
	- the SA puts fixing this one at the top of their priority list
	- that 802 passes a resolution giving WG Chairs authorization to work around this bug for their ballots.

I am happy to draft such a resolution but will be unable to move it at the EC.
Are you willing to be the mover?

Best regards,

	Geoff

On Feb 17, 2020, at 2:17 AMPST, Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com> wrote:

Hi Geoff,
 
I have just checked and see that you are an Approve voter on IEEE P802.3ca, please see below. As such you can't submit required comments.
 
Best regards,
  David
 
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From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:thompson@ieee.org] ;
Sent: 17 February 2020 00:51
To: mxhajduczenia@gmail.com
Cc: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>; Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com>; adam.healey@broadcom.com; c.knittle@cablelabs.com; Glen Kramer <glenkramer@broadcom.com>
Subject: Re: Comment on IEEE P8023.ca
 
Marek-
 
Editorial/Required
 
Thanks,
      Geoff
 
> On Feb 16, 2020, at 4:28 PMPST, <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com> <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Geoff, 
> 
> I do not see any information on the comment type or whether either one is
> required or not
> 
> Please advise 
> 
> Marek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2020 4:40 PM
> To: Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com>
> Cc: Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>; Adam Healey
> <adam.healey@broadcom.com> <adam.healey@broadcom.com>; Curtis Knittle
> <c.knittle@cablelabs.com> <c.knittle@cablelabs.com>; Glen Kramer
> <glen.kramer@broadcom.com>; Marek Hajduczenia <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com>
> <mxhajduczenia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Comment on IEEE P8023.ca
> 
> David-
> 
> My 2 comments were attached as a text file to the first message I sent about
> 3ca.
> 
> Geoff
> 
>> On Feb 16, 2020, at 1:26 PMPST, Law, David <dlaw@hpe.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Geoff,
>> 
>> Please could you supply the IEEE P802.3ca comment you were unable to
> submit through myProject to Marek so that we may incorporate it in to the
> IEEE P802.3ca comment database. At some point we'll need to get this in to
> the myProject system as well, but for now I'd like to get it in to the IEEE
> P802.3ca comment database.
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards,
>> David
> 
> 

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