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[802SEC] +++Electronic Ballot+++ 802.11az CSD modification

Hi All

Once again I am asking those of you who approved this modification to the CSD, to eliminate the need for a CAD, reconsider your vote.  If we are going to have a CAD process, we should try and get value out of it or we should drop it. This seems to me a clear case where a CAD is the right place to make the arguments about whether the changes made in 11az warrant an update to the CAD as Steve suggests below. Just because the 802.11 WG "believes" it is not needed is not a particularly technical argument, nor does it take into consideration wireless standards that have been completed in the meantime.  Doing a CAD is not a hardship, it is just part of doing a good job of wireless standards development.  Further, I respect the opinion of the Chair of our Coexistence WG.

Thanks for your reconsideration.

Best

Bob


At 01:39 AM 1/29/2019 +0000, Steve Shellhammer wrote:

Dorothy,

I am going to have to vote No on this motion, for the following reason,

The new statement in the proposed CSD reads:

The amendment will use the same channel assement methods, modulation, protection and reservation method and same spectral mask as the respective PHY it uses.

However, when I look over the 802.11az Draft 0.6 I see modifications to the VHT, HE and EDMG PHYs.  Maybe those changes do not affect coexistence, but if that is the case, the argument for that should be included in a CA document.  I have also heard other arguments for why the coexistence will be okay, but those arguments should also be included in a CA document.

Regards,

Steve

 

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Subject: [802SEC] +++10 day EC Electronic Ballot+++ CSD modification approval motion: IEEE 802.11 WG P802.11az CSD modification

 

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Dear EC members,

 

At the 802.11 meeting this past week, WG11 approved an updated P802.11az CSD document, attached, and available here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-0215-01-00az-csd-update.docx .

 

Per Clause 9.2 of the LMSC Operations Manual (Sponsor approval of changes to the CSD statement after its initial approval may occur either at plenary sessions or by electronic ballot, as described in 4.1.2.), and with Pauls delegation of conduct of the ballot to me, this email opens a 10 day EC electronic ballot to approve the updated P802.11az CSD document.

 

 

EC motion: Approve CSD modification documentation in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-0215-01-00az-csd-update.docx .

 

In the WG: Y/N/A): 58/0/0

 

Moved: Dorothy Stanley

Seconded: Jon Rosdahl

Result:

 

Thank you,

 

Dorothy

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For your information, the change to the CSD is shown below.

 

1.1.2   Coexistence



A WG proposing a wireless project shall demonstrate coexistence through the preparation of a Coexistence Assurance (CA) document unless it is not applicable.

a)      Will the WG create a CA document as part of the WG balloting process as described in Clause 13?
Yes No.

b)      If not, explain why the CA document is not applicable.

The amendment will use the same channel assement methods, modulation, protection and reservation method and same spectral mask as the respective PHY it uses.

 

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Dorothy Stanley

Hewlett Packard Enterprise

dorothy.stanley@hpe.com

+1 630-363-1389

 
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