| Colleagues:
I support John's concern about URLs churning with web redesigns, and having some durability of URL across web site reorganizations. This is important to minimizing work in maintaining our web pages and our documents as well as being important to citing web documents or pages in standards.
In doing a recent RAC mandatory coordination, one of the RAC members found a number of IEEE Registration Authority URLs contained in the draft standard that had become broken because of the standards web site redesign. On a previous redesign we got the IEEE Registration Authority home page URL added to a list of URLs that we were promised would be durable across web designs.
The promised durable URL was not redirecting to the current location when the web site was released, but was quickly fixed when pointed out to IT staff.
The RAC administrator is also following up with IEEE editorial staff to see if the current guidance in the IEEE-SA Style Manual is still what they want.
For example, the Style Manual would have a link in a standard go to the RA home page and the user would then follow the “Tutorials” link to get the list of tutorials and then expect the user to click on a specific tutorial of interest, rather than placing a link in the standard directly to the cited tutorial. This approach also requires writing something like “see "Allocation of Object Identifier values in IEEE Standards" in the tutorials section of the IEEE Registration Authority ( http://standards.ieee.org/regauth) web pages.”
A similar approach could be used for governance rules documents, either getting a durable URL for the governance documents page, or getting the URL for each governance document to be durable.
One problem I see with the current situation is that the list of “durable URLs” or whatever IT may call them is not a public document available to IEEE-SA volunteers (as best I know) Nor, is there any established process for getting some URL added to the list. I’d suggest that there needs to be some additional work done on this beyond what the RAC and a few others did on the previous web redesign.
—Bob
It is important that the URLs for governing documents are maintained without change or interruption. These documents must be available where we say they are so that they can be relied upon by 802 participants and the general public. IEEE SA should be expected to understand the importance of this continuity and take steps not to disrupt this for operational reasons, because there might be serious consequences otherwise. Relying on volunteer effort to fix things afterwards might not be seen as sufficient. There are ways to make the old links work when migrating content to new systems. Note that our approved policy and procedure documents contain references to some of these URLs. For example, the IEEE 802 LMSC Chair's Guidelines and EC Policy Decisions, v27 contains links to the PatCom slide set which no longer work. -- John Thanks Yve. About 10 days ago an 802.11 member pointed out the changes to me – that the 802.11 website links to some important areas such as the patent policy were broken, so I fixed them then. Will double check against your list so that we provide your recommended links. Dorothy ------------------------ Dorothy Stanley Hewlett Packard Enterprise +1 630-363-1389 Dorothy, I'll be providing a list with the changed URLs to the PMs so that you can get it. Just finalizing the list right now. Yve
Director, IPR and Risk Mgmt IEEE Standards Association Fostering technological innovation and excellence for the benefit of humanity. 802 EC members, Many of the IEEE links have changed, including SASB related links PatCom/AudCom, etc.. You might want to check/update your website links. For example, on Dorothy ------------------------ Dorothy Stanley Hewlett Packard Enterprise +1 630-363-1389
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