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Re: [802SEC] Ombudsman background slide deck



A non-voting EC member also:
	- gets to participate in closed EC meetings
	- be included in EC straw polls

I am in favor but don't think we are ready yet.
What powers will the Ombudsman have to go around the EC and take issues to a higher authority?

Geoff


> On Mar 5, 2018, at 2:07 PMPST, James Gilb <000008e8b69871c2-dmarc-request@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> Ben
> 
> A non-voting EC member, according to the rules:
> - Is listed in the public and private membership list
> - Is eligible to be on an appeals pool
> 
> By tradition, but no rule, a non-voting EC member
> - sits at the EC table during opening and closing sessions
> - gets to comment on motions (when we are pressed for time, comments from the audience are sometimes not taken).
> - gets to attend most Executive sessions (but technically, the EC Chair determines the list and could exclude them).
> - is able to irritate the EC chair by voting when they are not supposed to.
> 
> James Gilb
> 
> On 03/05/2018 12:10 PM, Benjamin A. Rolfe wrote:
>> Can you clarify:  With respect to the operation and decision making process of the EC what is the difference  between a non-voting member of the EC and a non-voting non-member of the EC?
>> thanks
>> B
>> On 3/5/2018 9:51 AM, James Gilb wrote:
>>> All
>>> 
>>> I would like to take an informal poll based on a suggestion at the opening meeting:
>>> 
>>> Question: Should the IEEE 802 Ombudsman be an appointed, non-voting member of the EC?
>>> 
>>> Please answer Yes/No/Abstain.
>>> 
>>> Anyone can respond, but it would be best most/all of the EC voting members respond.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Note that we are doing P&P updates this year, so this position can be added to the P&P.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> James Gilb
>>> 
>>> On 03/05/2018 07:17 AM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>>> Dear EC Members,
>>>> 
>>>> The Ombudsman background slide deck presented at the opening EC meeting is available at https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0056-00-00EC-802-ombusdman-background.ppt. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> --Paul
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