Re: [802SEC] Proposed OM changes for March

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Hi James,

This is P&P rather than OM (and probably will take a while to act on), but I'm having difficulty parsing part of 5.6 Other subgroups:

"The formation and disbandment of subgroups other than administrative subgroups (e.g., WGs, TAGs, technical subcommittees, and writing groups) require approval by a majority vote of the Sponsor."

Is the e.g. parenthetical giving examples of "administrative subgroups" or of "subgroups other than administrative subgroups"?

WGs and TAGs are covered by prior subclauses in 5 and are mentioned in 5.1 Administrative subgroups so it seems that the parenthetical is listing types of administrative subgroups since they are included, but technical subcommittees aren't mentioned in 5.1.

What are technical subcommittees and writing groups?

There is no definition of Administrative subgroups other than listing the EC, WGs, TAGs and ECSGs under 5.1.

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org> wrote:

James,
   the Agenda has the ICAID approval in both the OM and the Chairs Guidelines....is that on purpose?

For the Agenda Item on "Badges and tutorials", I would like to offer the following thought:
We ask the Hotel to try to assist and be diligent in security efforts and to ask that anyone in our meeting area without a badge be escorted out of the area.
This has not always been successful, as we did have a laptop be taken while setting up for a Tutorial in Vancouver.
However, I would ask that there is a difference of waiving the registration fee for the Tutorial and not having a badge.
We should all (especially the EC members) be diligent in asking to see badges and to notify hotel security if we see someone with out a badge.
We can offer "Tutorial Guest badges" to those coming just for the Tutorial.
The Tutorial Guest badge can be made a different color or include a marking to allow the chair to know if someone is in any other WG meeting without a proper badge.
We should expect that it is not too much to ask Tutorial attendees to register and getting a badge even if there is no fee.

My two cents,
Jon

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On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:14 PM, James Gilb <000008e8b69871c2-dmarc-request@ieee.org> wrote:
All

I have posted the proposed OM changes summary in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0026-00-00EC-rule-changes-for-march-2018.pdf

The changes (with the exception of the Privacy addition to the CSD) are shown with redlines in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0027-00-00EC-proposed-om-with-redlines.pdf

and without redlines in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0041-02-00EC-proposed-operations-manual.pdf

Thanks

James Gilb

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