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Re: [802SEC] Proposed P&P change for March

I think that there are two things happening here.
1. we are trying to indicate that the current chair becomes the chair of the Hibernating WG
2. we are trying to indicate that the chair will change from a voting member of the EC to a Non-Voting member of the EC.
separating the idea into separate sentences may be a better way to note that.

Change: "Hibernating WG Chairs become Non-Voting Members of the Sponsor after their WG enters hibernation. The Sponsor Chair may appoint new hibernating WG Chairs to replace vacancies as soon as practical, subject to confirmation by the Sponsor at the next plenary meeting."

To:  "A WG Chair becomes the Hibernating-WG Chair after their WG enters hibernation.  The Hibernating-WG Chair becomes a Non-Voting Member of the Sponsor. The Sponsor Chair may appoint a new Hibernating-WG Chair to replace a vacancy as soon as practical, subject to confirmation by the Sponsor at the next plenary meeting."

My suggestion,
Jon


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On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Pat Thaler <000006d722d423ba-dmarc-request@ieee.org> wrote:
A hyphen removes the written language ambiguity: Hibernating-WG chair and serves the purpose of having a title for the position that is different from the unmodified WG chair title.

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Benjamin A. Rolfe <ben@blindcreek.com> wrote:

I notice that the change leaves a language ambiguity with "Hibernating WG Chair";  though I expect we all can be expected to know that it is the WG that is Hibernating and not the chair, it's still not proper use of language.

Replacing "Hibernating WG Chair" with "Chair of Hibernating WG" would be correct use of language.

Ben


On 2/8/2018 6:29 AM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
James,

I have a proposed editorial change to P&P 5.2.1 as follows:

Change: "Hibernating WG Chairs become Non-Voting Members of the Sponsor after their WG enters hibernation. The Sponsor Chair may appoint new hibernating WG Chairs to replace vacancies as soon as practical, subject to confirmation by the Sponsor at the next plenary meeting."

To:  "WG Chairs become Hibernating WG Chair Non-Voting Members of the Sponsor after their WG enters hibernation. The Sponsor Chair may appoint new hibernating WG Chairs to replace vacancies as soon as practical, subject to confirmation by the Sponsor at the next plenary meeting."

Rationale: moving the descriptor "Hibernating" from its current position to the proposed position resolves a logical inconsistency in the current text.

Please put it in your queue for discussion at the appropriate time.

Regards,

--Paul

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Subject: [802SEC] Proposed OM changes for March

All

I have posted the proposed OM changes summary in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0026-00-00EC-rule-changes-for-march-2018.pdf

The changes (with the exception of the Privacy addition to the CSD) are shown with redlines in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/18/ec-18-0027-00-00EC-proposed-om-with-redlines.pdf

and without redlines in:
https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0041-02-00EC-proposed-operations-manual.pdf

Thanks

James Gilb

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