Re: [802SEC] +++30 day EC pseudo-ballot+++ Signs of Dominance document

[Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org>]

Adrian-

My problem with your process can be categorized as a general overall comment.

You restored each individual's full voting rights rights as soon as they made a statement renouncing their membership in the cabal.

The alternative would have been to keep them in the single vote "dominance" group for some greater length of time.

The problem with this remedy is that it is a "no lose" scenario for the offender.

There is effectively no penalty for the collusion.

If you get away with it then that is great.

If you get caught then you just renounce it immediately so no big loss.

What is called for in SA procedure is for the group to be reduced to just one vote.

As I recall, it is not specified when that penalty is to be lifted.

If the penalty is held in place too long then it is too draconian

If not held in place long enough then there is no disincentive.

In this case, in my opinion (but then I wasn't in the middle of it at all) it was too much on the side of providing no disincentive for taking another whack at it in the future.

Best regards,

Geoff

On Jul 17, 2017, at 2:16 AMPDT, Adrian Stephens <adrian.p.stephens@ieee.org> wrote:

Dear EC,

I was tasked with running a "pseudo-ballot" on the signs of dominance document that was presented (briefly) at the EC closing plenary.   Having determined that the P&P documents contain no guidance,  I examined the closest entrails to discover a process
The purpose of this "pseudo-ballot" is to collect comments,  not to determine approval.   If you have no comments,  you do not need to respond.

There will be a 30-day comment collection period, during which you can send in comments on the document.
At the end of that period,  I will collate the comments and attempt to provide a resolution.  I might bring in other EC members to assist at that point.

Please provide comments using only the attached spreadsheet.

The document under review is: 
https://mentorieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0083-01-00EC-signs-of-dominance-toolkit.pdf

This is the same as presented,  with the exception of added line numbers,  and conversion of format to .pdf (to prevent letter->A4 repagination).

The close date is 2017-08-16.  I will send out a reminder 2 days early.

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Best Regards,

Adrian Stephens
IEEE 802.11 Working Group Chair
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