P.S. in defense of Roger,
this is a consultation on spectrum use, so wireless should the
primary focus.
If you're wires/fiber are affecting our spectrum enough that OfCom
notices, you're doing something wrong!
On 7/14/2016 8:44 PM, Geoff Thompson
wrote:
Hopefully not.
In 802 at least I truly believe that we all need
each other.
Geoff
On Jul 14, 2016, at 8:08 PMPDT, John Notor
< gnu@notor.com> wrote:
Food fight!!!!
John Notor
Notor Research
1.408.316.8312
Colleagues-
I would also direct your attention to
Roger's quote:
"The trend in
new Internet connected devices is only wireless
connectivity"
I believe that we have a strong vested
interest in wired backhaul as an essential element
of many networks going forward.
We should not feed the fantasy of a
wireless world no matter the extent of the
penetration of wireless devices into the consumer
space.
Geoff
Roger makes some
outstanding points. Any way we can add
what
he is saying to the document and be
clearer on our use of the
term?
At 05:13 PM 7/14/2016 -0600, Roger B.
Marks wrote:
Rich,
I vote Disapprove.
My concern is that the document presumes
in several places that the term
“Wi-Fi”, as used in the consultation,
means “Wi-Fi®” However,
it’s my understanding that it doesn’t.
The consultation
says:
In this document we use the
term Wi-Fi throughout because it is by
far
the most common WLAN/RLAN application
and is widely understood by both
industry stakeholders and consumers -
but the discussion is also relevant
to all other variations of WLAN/RLAN
technology (e.g. LTE/LAA
etc.).
Since the response uses the term
“Wi-Fi” differently than does
the consultation, if should explain that
usage and contrast it to that of
the consultation. Here is some text
where it matters:
*Slide 5 asks for “Wi-FI” to “be treated
as an de facto incumbent,
and should be afforded the protection
all of its adherents expect and
deserve.” This has two very different
meanings depending on whether
Wi-Fi is Wi-Fi® or all “variations of
WLAN/RLAN technology (e.g.
LTE/LAA etc.)”.
*Slide 6 worries about the “entry into
the spectrum dominated by Wi-Fi
for 20 years, of other technologies”. As
far as I know, the
technologies of interest are all
“variations of WLAN/RLAN
technology”, so they are not “other
technologies”, according to the
consultation.
*Side 10 says “Wi-Fi has become the
dominant wireless Internet access
technology”. Is this intended to include
all “variations of WLAN/RLAN
technology”?
There are also a lot of grammatical
errors that need to be cleaned up,
which I’m sure you will take care of
after approval of the motion. I
would suggest that you rephrase “The
trend in new Internet connected
devices is only wireless connectivity,”
because I don’t think it’s
clear. Surely that’s not the only trend
in Internet connected
devices.
Regards,
Roger
On
2016Jul 14, at 7:56 AM, Holcomb,
Jay
<Jay.Holcomb@itron.com>
wrote:
Dear EC Members,
Paul has delegated to Rich Kennedy to
conduct an EC electronic ballot on
the following motion. To ensure this
motion is decided well before the 22
July 2016 Ofcom filing deadline I'm
announcing an 'early close' to this
ballot (see below).
802 EC motion per 802 OM 8.2 Procedure
for communication with government
bodies:
Move to approve the responses to the
13/05/2016 Ofcom consultation
(see
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/consultations/5-GHz-Wi-Fi/?a=0)
as defined in document
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/16/18-16-0036-06-0000-ofcom-5-gfhz-consultation-questions.ppt
which contain the 802.18 approved
(5/0/0) responses, instructions for
uploading to Ofcom webpage and
granting the 802.18 chair editorial
license.
Mover: Rich Kennedy, Seconder: Adrian
Stephens
Start of ballot: July 14, 2016
End of ballot: July 14 + 10 days or
sooner per Early Close
provisions
Early close: As required in subclause
4.1.2 'Voting rules' of the IEEE
802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee (LMSC)
Operations Manual, this is notice
that, to ensure the release is
provided in a timely manner, this
ballot
may close early once sufficient
responses are received to clearly
decide
a matter. Sufficient responses to
clearly decide this matter will be
based on the required majority for a
motion under subclause 7.1.1
'Actions requiring approval by a
majority vote' item (h), 'Other
motions
brought to the floor by members (when
deemed in order by the Sponsor
Chair)' of the IEEE 802 LAN/MAN
Standards Committee (LMSC) Policies
and
Procedures.
On behave of
Rich
Kennedy, Chair of IEEE 802.18
Regards,
Jay R.
Holcomb
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Chair
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