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Re: [802SEC] Comments on 802.3ca and 802.3cb PARs and CSD



Colleagues,

 

After Study Group discussion, please find below the resolution of comments received on P802.3ca PAR/Objectives/CSD. If you have additional questions or comments, please let me know.

 

Curtis

 

From Paul Nikolich:

Regarding the 802.3ca draft PAR 5.4 Purpose:

The 1st sentence uses the qualitative term 'significantly increase performance..'.  It should be replaced with 'increase by 2.5 to 10 times the performance..." to be in line with the Scope.

Response: Since having a Purpose clause in the P802.3ca PAR is an error and will be deleted, this comment is overtaken by events

 

From James Gilb:

General question: With wireless standards, we often specify a target operating range.  Is there a reason why a target distance is not specified for NG EPON?  It seems that the stakeholders would have some expectation of the length of fiber over which this standard can reliably deliver the advertised data rate.  This distance should be stated in the scope.

Response: 802.3 typically does not specify reach requirements in PAR Scope statements, but instead places these in the project objectives. Please see the objectives for information related to target distances and split ratios.

 

From David Law:

The issue with the Purpose clause is, as indicated by the question related to item 5.4 'Will the completed document (base + amendment) contain a purpose clause?:', that if the answer is yes, the text in the box will be the purpose clause for the entire (base + amendment) IEEE 802.3 standard. I suspect that there will be significant push back from the IEEE 802.3 Working Group to have a purpose statement in IEEE Std 802.3 for the first time, and to have it only be related to EPON, regardless of how successful a part of IEEE 802.3 that EPON undoubtedly is

Response: The Purpose clause will be deleted

 

 

 

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Subject: [802SEC] Comments on 802.3ca and 802.3cb PARs and CSD

 

David

 

My comments on the PARs are as follows:

 

802.3ca

 

  -General question: With wireless standards, we often specify a target

  operating range.  Is there a reason why a target distance is not

  specified for NG EPON?  It seems that the stakeholders would have

  some expectation of the length of fiber over which this standard can

  reliably deliver the advertised data rate.  This distance should be stated in the scope

 

802.3b

 

  -General question: With wireless standards, we often specify a target

  operating range.  Is there a reason why a target distance is not

  specified for this standard?  It seems that the stakeholders would

  have some expectation of the backplane distance or copper twinax

  length over which this standard can reliably deliver the advertised

  data rate.  This distance should be stated in the scope.

 

CSD

 

  Compatibility: This 5C states that "shall be compatible with 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s MAC operation being defined in IEEE P802.3bz".  If so, then the PAR (5.3) should reflect that this standard depends on the completion of IEEE P802.3bz.

 

James Gilb

 

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