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Jon, I disagree – this is not fine and not in line with the action item. Personally – plenary weeks are very limited opportunities to get together with colleagues for general consensus building. But these weeks are so filled that we need to help our members find additional time. Personally, I would throw out that the EC should consider meeting on Sunday in order to give a full day to the members on Monday. Things are that bad in terms of opportunities for us all to meet. I think asking presenters to characterize their meetings is reasonable. They can describe it as something that is general or technology specific. For example, as chair of 400G group, my tutorial would be very specific to wireline technologies. I really doubt the 802.11 crowd would care about the technical details of a tutorial. They might care about the application uses. But as the tutorial creator – I would have a feeling for this. If a meeting were not deemed generic, Paul could decree that the meeting time is available for use. My $0.02 as someone having to deal with this issue. J From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Jon Rosdahl It has been pointed out to me that there may be some that would like to respond directly to me rather than to the open group. Please send feedback/comments to jrosdahl@ieee.org Always happy to help, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Jon Rosdahl <jrosdahl@ieee.org> wrote: Hello All, I have an action item to start the discussion on the reflector for how can we maximize the time we have allocated for Tutorials. Sometimes we have tutorials that some believe are not for the whole of 802. Sometimes we have tutorials that everyone believes that they are for the whole of 802. Sometimes we have tutorials that some believe are for only one WG. This has caused a bit of angst. Historically, we have had rules that said that during the Plenaries no WG meetings were to be held on Monday or Tuesday to allow for the Tutorials to be held. Then we has a period where WGs could hold meeting regardless of the Tutorial schedule. Currently we have said that WGs should not hold meetings on Monday evenings, to clear the schedule for Tutorials, and that on Tuesday evenings if we have overflow Tutorials they can be held in parallel with WG meetings. We all recognize that our time is short and very full. Some WG utilize more time from Monday to Friday than others. Each WG utilizes the amount of time to match what they believe their Members want. How to squeeze more time has lead to this discussion on when a WG could try to gain more time? Comments and suggestions? I will look for your input and try to summarize both sides for discussion in San Antonio. Jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv. |