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Tony, Geoff,I will request a formal interpretation from SASB on whether the motion should be declared out of order. My logic is as follows: it fell in a gray area of Sponsor policy where it seems to be out-of-order (we don't have independent authority over that particular rule), but perhaps its not (we weren't asking to suspend bylaws per RROO).Therefore, my plan is to obtain a crisp definition from SASB of what is in and out of order regarding a rules suspension motion, using this motion as an example. Ultimately this will be a generally useful interpretation from SASB for all Sponsors.Regards,--Paul------ Original Message ------From: "Tony Jeffree" <tony@jeffree.co.uk>Sent: 4/26/2013 8:22:29 AMSubject: Re: [802SEC] IEEE Staff interpretation of Suspension of P&PsIndeed so.---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.
Regards,
Tony
On 26 April 2013 12:51, Geoff Thompson <thompson@ieee.org> wrote:
None the less, it would be appropriate (for the record) to rule the motion out of order.
Geoff
On 4/25/13 7:57 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:Subur, The motion fails. --Paul---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.Paul,
Are you going to cancel the motion? I did vote Approve with the assumption that EC can suspend the rule.
Regards,
_Subir
Paul -
Given that response, I believe that the right course of action at this point is for you to cancel the motion on the grounds that it is out of order.
Regards,
TonyOn Apr 25, 2013 7:35 PM, "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net> wrote:
Dear EC Members,
I just received the following communication from IEEE Staff regarding an interpretation of whether or not a Sponsor can suspend their P&P, which you need to consider when casting your vote on the motion to suspend that we have in process. Please keep in mind it is an interpretation--not until SASB considers an action on a Sponsor motion to suspend their P&P, would a formal decision on the validity of such an action be made.
Regards,
--Paul
------ Forwarded Message ------
From: "Yvette Ho Sang" <y.hosang@ieee.org>
To: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>
Cc: "Claire Topp" <topp.claire@dorsey.com>
Sent: 4/25/2013 2:16:04 PM
Subject: Suspension of P&Ps
Paul,
I'd appreciate it if you could please send this to the EC reflector.
I was notified of the questions by EC members about whether the Sponsor P&Ps could be suspended by the EC. I conferred with outside counsel, Claire Topp, whose advice mirrored my own opinion. We believe that the EC cannot suspend the Sponsor P&Ps because ultimate authority for the procedures lie not with the EC, but with AudCom and the SASB. Any action by the EC would have to be accepted by AudCom and/or approved by the SASB.
Realistically, I don't believe AudCom or the SASB would allow Sponsors to suspend their P&Ps because of the risks associated with this action. However, the EC can present their request to AudCom if they would like it to be considered.
Regards,
Yve
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