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[802SEC] [PRIVATE] +++EC 'early close' Email Ballot+++ to authorize $1200 expenditure for P1905.1 draft access

Paul-
I will reluctantly endorse the expenditure to expedite the process and provide our review on hopefully a less contentious basis.
However, I believe that it is unprecedented and deeply, fundamentally WRONG for the IEEE-SA to make it difficult and to charge for what is essentially coordination between standards committees- 
- both of whom are within what the SA alleges to be their family
- who have basic service and interoperability interfaces between each other
I would therefore propose that the 802 EC initiate action at its November meeting to bring this matter before the SA-SB and the BoG to have the billing nullified and any funds transfer reversed on the ground that the action was contrary to the appropriate procedures for the development of quality standards.
This whole business is a great example of rule by bureaucracy to the detriment of the operation of a business. Providing oversight and repair to situations like this is precisely the purpose that oversight governance boards are supposed to achieve. Whether or not they manage to do the right thing and fix this will be, in my view, a litmus test of their ability run a decent SDO that takes on standards for systems.
(Please note that I have not sent this to the reflector. I think it unwise to tell staff that this action is being discussed before we actually are granted our review. Please do not mention this in your response to the vote which should be sent to the reflector.) 

Best regards,
Geoff

On 99//12 2:16 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:

Dear EC Members,

This is an early close (not to exceed 10 days) EC Email ballot.
Motion: To authorize a $1200 expenditure for access to 50 copies of the P1905.1 recirc draft. 

Moved: James Gilb, Second Mike Lynch.
Please cast a vote as soon as possible in order for me to declare a final decision in as short a time as possible. The recirc period opens Monday 10SEP, the sooner this motion is decided, the more time the 802 reviewers will have to review and comment on the draft. 

Regards,

--Paul

4.1.2.2 Electronic Balloting
The minimum duration of an electronic ballot shall be 10 days1. For urgent matters once sufficient response is received to clearly decide a matter, the ballot may be closed early. This allows a decision to be reach in less than 10 days. Ballots where the possibility of an early close exists must be clearly marked accordingly. 


----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Nikolich
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 12:34 AM
Subject: [802SEC] Fwd: P1905.1 draft access


Dear EC members,
Please see the below offer from the SA staff for intersted 802 parties to gain access to the 1905.1 recirc draft. The recirc opens Monday.
Please let me know your opinion and if you think we should purchase the license or not. 


Regards,
--Paul




Begin forwarded message:


From: k.mccabe@ieee.org
Date: September 8, 2012 6:46:57 PM EDT
To: Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net>
Cc: constantin@ieee.org
Subject: P1905.1 draft access



Paul
To enable the 802 Community access to the revised P1905.1 draft (that is anticipated to be in recirculation next week) so that it can submit comments to the P1905.1 working group, the SA will provide a network license agreement to 802. The agreement allows for up to 50 individual users at a one time fee of $1200, and eliminates the burden of individuals in the 802 community having to purchase the draft. The license agreement will provide unlimited access to the draft for review and comment. A draft of the license agreement is attached for your review and reference.
We will post the draft in a private area--providing a user name and password for access. 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!
Karen







Karen McCabe, CME
Senior Director, Strategy, Marketing, and Product Development
445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331
Piscataway NJ 08855 USA
PH: +1 732 562 3824
email: k.mccabe@ieee.org
http://standards.ieee.org
IEEE – Advancing Technology for Humanity
---------- This email is sent from the 802 Executive Committee email reflector. This list is maintained by Listserv.
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Dear EC members,
Please see the below offer from the SA staff for intersted 802 parties to gain access to the 1905.1 recirc draft. The recirc opens Monday.
Please let me know your opinion and if you think we should purchase the license or not. 

Regards,
--Paul



Begin forwarded message:


From: k.mccabe@ieee.org
Date: September 8, 2012 6:46:57 PM EDT
To: Paul Nikolich <paul.nikolich@att.net>
Cc: constantin@ieee.org
Subject: P1905.1 draft access


Paul
To enable the 802 Community access to the revised P1905.1 draft (that is anticipated to be in recirculation next week) so that it can submit comments to the P1905.1 working group, the SA will provide a network license agreement to 802. The agreement allows for up to 50 individual users at a one time fee of $1200, and eliminates the burden of individuals in the 802 community having to purchase the draft. The license agreement will provide unlimited access to the draft for review and comment. A draft of the license agreement is attached for your review and reference.
We will post the draft in a private area--providing a user name and password for access. 

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks!
Karen







Karen McCabe, CME
Senior Director, Strategy, Marketing, and Product Development
445 Hoes Lane, PO Box 1331
Piscataway NJ 08855 USA
PH: +1 732 562 3824
email: k.mccabe@ieee.org
http://standards.ieee.org
IEEE – Advancing Technology for Humanity


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