Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
James,
Speaking as the guy who will have to deal with people next go around - I would like to see both letters (endorsement / affiliation) called out in the rules, and believe both voting and non-voting should be required to provide both.
John
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
All
BTW: The issue here is the endorsement letter. The affiliation letter
is required by ruling of the Chair. I suspect that you both are
referring the the endorsement letter.
We could modify the text in c) (for the affiliation letter) to say
something like:
c) Recognition that the individual is expected to act as both a
professional and as an individual expert and, if voting, in accordance
with the conditions stated in the Voting Guidance subclause of the IEEE
802 Operations Manual.
That would cover it, I think.
James Gilb
On 07/06/2012 07:41 AM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> I agree with John. An additional reason is that non-voting EC members can also have substantive assignments from the EC chair including sitting on appeals panels.
>
> Pat
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> James,
> I believe all members, including their alternates, of the sponsor should be required to provide the necessary letters of endorsement.
>
> Non-voting members should also provide the affiliation letter. A modified version of the affiliation letter, which doesn't include the statement regarding how to vote, should also be required. IMHO, such individuals still contribute to a decision process without voting by their participation in the debate of issues.
>
> John
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> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 8:15 PM
> To: 802 EC
> Subject: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
>
> All
>
> In the interest of getting the P&P changes onto AudCom's agenda, I would
> like to start discussion of the proposed changes by email so that we can
> have some level of consensus by the Sunday night rules meeting that will
> lead to a successful motion on Monday morning.
>
> Accordingly, I would like to take up discussion of one of the proposed
> changes on this email in search of feedback.
>
> Every 2 years, the Recording secretary asks for letters of endorsement
> from potential EC members. Currently the rule states "Any person to be
> confirmed by the Sponsor shall ...". I had produced two suggestions:
>
> a) "All members of the Sponsor shall ..."
> b) "All voting members of the Sponsor shall ..."
>
> However, I have noticed that this leaves out WG and TAG Vice Chairs, who
> are not members of the Sponsor, but can vote (under the newly modified
> rules) and are confirmed by the sponsor.
>
> It turns out that there is no central place that lists all the persons
> that are to be confirmed by the Sponsor.
>
> So 2 questions:
> 1) Should non-voting members of the Sponsor be required to file
> letters of affiliation including the statement regarding how to vote?
> 2) Should we add a list of the persons to be confirmed by the Sponsor?
>
> James Gilb
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