Re: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting

["James P. K. Gilb" <gilb@ieee.org>]

Pat

For one thing, there is no location in the P&P that defines the members 
that require confirmation.  It is true that the EC chair, according to 
our rules, does not have to file the letters.

Currently, the requirement is in the WG P&P, which, to me, is wrong as 
this is a requirement of the EC, not of the WG.  Furthermore, the WG P&P 
specifies that the Sponsor Chair makes temporary appointments for WG 
Chair and Vice Chair, which is hinted at in the P&P (it says vacancies 
to offices, which could be read to mean only the officers of the EC, of 
which the WG chairs are not).

Also, I am not sure if all WG's have adopted our WG P&P as theirs and 
without modification.

James Gilb

On 07/05/2012 06:38 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> James,
>
> Could you remind me what is wrong with the existing text? The only thing I can see is that it leaves out the IEEE 802 Chair since he is elected rather than confirmed by the sponsor. But that could be fixed by adding "ore elected" after confirmed.
>
> Regards,
> Pat
>
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> Subject: [802SEC] Proposed rule changes for July meeting
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> All
>
> In the interest of getting the P&P changes onto AudCom's agenda, I would
> like to start discussion of the proposed changes by email so that we can
> have some level of consensus by the Sunday night rules meeting that will
> lead to a successful motion on Monday morning.
>
> Accordingly, I would like to take up discussion of one of the proposed
> changes on this email in search of feedback.
>
> Every 2 years, the Recording secretary asks for letters of endorsement
> from potential EC members.  Currently the rule states "Any person to be
> confirmed by the Sponsor shall ...".  I had produced two suggestions:
>
>    a) "All members of the Sponsor shall ..."
>    b) "All voting members of the Sponsor shall ..."
>
> However, I have noticed that this leaves out WG and TAG Vice Chairs, who
> are not members of the Sponsor, but can vote (under the newly modified
> rules) and are confirmed by the sponsor.
>
> It turns out that there is no central place that lists all the persons
> that are to be confirmed by the Sponsor.
>
> So 2 questions:
>    1) Should non-voting members of the Sponsor be required to file
> letters of affiliation including the statement regarding how to vote?
>    2) Should we add a list of the persons to be confirmed by the Sponsor?
>
> James Gilb
>
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