Re: [802SEC] myballot status for the 802 EC Interim Teleconference -- June 7, 2011, 1-3pm ET.
There is a meta-issue here: of transparency of fulfilment of feature requests and bugfixes.
For example, one of the comments in Pat's spreadsheet comes from me. I made the same comment
two years ago to them using the little-known "report a bug" feature of MyProject, and it disappeared into a black hole - plunk!
I would like to see a tracking system - it doesn't have to be complex, just a read-only spreadsheet we can access somewhere
that lists records: Origin, type (bug, enhancement), description, status (received, rejected, accepted, completed), scheduled completion date and owner.
That way we can tell if we're merely being passively ignored, positively rejected, or whether IEEE-SA is failing to meet its scheduled commitments.
This isn't rocket science. Those of us who've spent any time developing products (and most of us, judging by the grey hair have been doing this for way too long) know how to do this.
Perhaps the issue is not that the IEEE-SA don't know how to do this, but that the IEEE-SA's software developers considers themselves to be serving only their managers, not their users. At the moment we're being treated like mushrooms ("keep in the dark and feed..."). This is so far from what the IEEE-SA require 802 to do in our processes in terms of openness that it's laughable.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 1:43 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] myballot status for the 802 EC Interim Teleconference -- June 7, 2011, 1-3pm ET.
All,
Pat will be on a plane and unable to join our call this afternoon, so she prepared the following status update as part of her agenda item.
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Thaler" <pthaler@broadcom.com>
To: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@att.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:58 PM
Subject: RE: [802SEC] UPDATED: Teleconference Reminder: 802 EC Interim Teleconference -- June 7, 2011, 1-3pm ET.
Paul,
Here is the status:
I solicited comments on MyBallot and MyProject on the EC reflector and consolidated the issues into the attached spreadsheet. I sent the spreadsheet to Patricia Gerdon on May 19.
Most of the issues were with MyBallot. The only comment I received on MyProject was regarding automating transfer of ballot results from MyBallot to RevCom submittal forms. Therefore, I suggested focusing on MyBallot first.
There are 14 comments. I categorized that most interfere with the ability of voters to review outstanding issues and those that most burden volunteers managing ballots as priority 1 and 2. The priority 1 item is a case where MyBallot is, in my opinion, operating contrary to the SB OM. There were 7 priority 2 items. Priority 3 items are feature improvements and the priority
4 item is ideas on a next generation tool.
I'm awaiting a response from IEEE staff on the list.
Regards,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:44 PM
To: Pat Thaler
Subject: Re: [802SEC] UPDATED: Teleconference Reminder: 802 EC Interim Teleconference -- June 7, 2011, 1-3pm ET.
Pat,
Please provide a brief status update in writing (maybe a ppt slide or two?) wrt to the MyBallot/MyProject work that you're leading prior to the call that we can use to guide the discussion of that agenda item.
Regards,
--Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Thaler" <pthaler@BROADCOM.COM>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] UPDATED: Teleconference Reminder: 802 EC Interim Teleconference -- June 7, 2011, 1-3pm ET.
> Unfortunately, I'll be on a plane for most of the call. I'll try to dial
> in once I've landed.
> Pat
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