Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Thanks Bob,
I will send the response to the reflector the next time around.
Regards
Apurva
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From: Grow, Bob [mailto:bob.grow@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 1:18 PM
To: Mody, Apurva (US SSA); STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Apurva:
When a question is asked to the reflector, it is best to answer that question on the reflector. I shared Pat's concern and was sitting on things expecting a response to the question.
As a message from 802.22, I vote approve.
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From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mody, Apurva (US SSA)
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:13 AM
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Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Hi Pat,
I did send you the e-mail below which perhaps you have not had a chance to look at.
The IEEE 802.22 vote was taken during the January interim closing plenary and the motion was passed.
Hope that helps.
Apurva
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From: Mody, Apurva (US SSA)
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 7:43 PM
To: 'Pat Thaler'; MJLynch@mjlallc.com
Cc: John Notor
Subject: RE: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Hi Pat,
Thanks for your comments. This letter is a communication from IEEE 802.22 WG (and NOT IEEE 802) to the Wireless Planning and Co-ordination (India), supporting the TICET proposal from IIT Bombay.
Originally, when the representatives from IIT Bombay approached Bruce and myself in Los Angeles, on Thursday evening, we decided to develop a joint IEEE 802 position. As a result, the IEEE 802.22 WG passed the following motion to support the proposal from IIT Bombay.
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Move that WG authorizes the Chair and the 802.22 representatives to work with Siddharth Shetty from IIT Bombay to create a document that supports cognitive radio based TV Whitespace usage as developed by the IEEE 802 standards in India and present a letter of support as our formal position to 802.18.
Move: Ivan Reede
Second: Tom Gurley
For: 6
Against: 0
Abstain: 3
Motion passes
__________________________________________________________________________________________
However, Bruce conveyed to me that the IEEE 802.11 WG does not plan to support the proposal from IIT Bombay and has a slightly different opinion. The IEEE 802.11 WG plans to develop a separate communication for the WPC at some point.
As a result, during the 802.18 calls it became clear that this letter should be a communication from the IEEE 802.22 to the WPC and NOT from IEEE 802.
Hope this helps.
Given this, can you please suggest, how we should count your vote?
Thanks once again.
Apurva
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:21 PM
To: MJLynch@mjlallc.com; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Which are we voting on - a letter from 802.18, 802.22 (which matches the current text) or a letter from 802?
"seems fine" isn't a very definite statement.
If it is to be a letter from 802.22, was there an 802.22 vote on the letter? Our rules require 75% approval from the subgroup that is sending the letter. The ballot announcement gave the results of the 802.18 vote but not an 802.22 vote.
Note that if it is a letter from 802.22, our rules don't require a vote - 9.2.2 of our OM requires a 5 day review period for subgroup communications to government bodies, during which someone can introduce a motion to block if they have a problem with the letter. At this point since a vote is well under way, it may be reasonable to continue with voting rather than start a 5-day period which might result in a ballot being needed.
If it is an 802 letter than a 2/3 vote of the EC is required to approve it.
Regards,
Pat
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Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Roger,
Sending it as an IEEE 802 letter seems fine. The letter could be signed by Paul and Apurva since it was 802.22 that originally had the opportunity to address the Indian regulator. Or it could be signed by Paul alone. I've asked Paul and he is okay with the former. Are you?
Regards,
Mike
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From: Roger Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 16:15
To: MJLynch@mjlallc.com
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ 10-day EC Email Ballot +++ Letter to the Indian regulator regarding use of TV white space spectrum
Mike,
As you know, I supported this document as a letter from 802.18. I'm not opposed in principle to having it be issued from IEEE 802. I understand that the motion is to approve it per OM 9.2.1 (Procedure for Communication with Government Bodies/IEEE 802 Communications).
In order to meet the terms of 9.2.1, I believe that the letter needs to be formatted differently so as to "be issued by the LMSC Chair as the view of IEEE 802." I believe this falls under the "necessary editorial and formatting changes" authorization of the motion. Still, I'd prefer to see the revised form of the letter before I cast a vote. Can you accommodate this request?
Roger
On 2011/02/22, at 09:25 AM, MJLynch@mjlallc.com wrote:
> Dear EC,
>
> Paul has authorized me to conduct a ten day EC mail ballot to approve
> document 18-11-0023-02, Letter for the Indian Regulator. [more text]
>
> Background:
>
> As some of you may be aware the RR-TAG held a series of conference calls regarding a letter that 802.22 proposed to send to Indian regulator. It is an endorsement of the Indian Institute of Technology's proposal for the use of the TV white space frequency band in India. In India the spectrum under consideration is the 470 - 698 MHz frequency band.
>
> The RR-TAG had a total of three conference calls. On the third conference call, with participation from 802.11, 802.16, 802.18 and 802.22, the letter was approved by a vote of 5/0/0. Five is the current quorum for 802.18.
>
> The Indian regulator will have a meeting to consider proposals for the use of that frequency band on March 17th which is during our Singapore plenary. In order to make certain that the letter is received in time to be considered I asked Paul to authorize an EC email ballot.
>
> The minutes from the conference calls are available on the 802.18 Mentor web site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> Motion:
>
> To approve document 18-11-0023-02 as an 802 document, authorizing the Chair of 802.18 to do necessary editorial and formatting changes and, using the document as a "template", create the appropriate input to the Indian regulator via the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay. 802.18 approved this document by a vote of 5/0/0.
>
> Moved: Mike Lynch
> Second: Apurva Mody
>
> Start of ballot: Tuesday, February 22nd Close of ballot: Thursday,
> March 3rd, 11:59 p.m. AOE
>
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