Re: [802SEC] trial-run interim EC telecon meetings--1-3pm ET 11JUN2010?
I likely will be available at that time.
On 4/26/2010 5:02 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> Geoff, All,
>
> I thing the best thing for us to do is to have a 'trial' EC
> teleconference 1-3pm ET 11June as a means of shaking down the
> process. We can report the results of the trial-run to the members in
> July, refine the process, and (perhaps) have the 1st 'official'
> interim EC teleconference the 1st week of October.
>
> I'm pretty sure I can get web/teleconference services from the IEEE
> that will provide adequate ports. I think 30 days advance notice of
> this 'trial-run' interim EC meeting should be sufficient.
>
> Tentative agenda--I will take requests for additional agenda
> items--but I think it would be useful to cover the following:
>
> 0) Engage in debate regarding an effective way to implement a regular
> "interm EC teleconference" in OCT, FEB and JUN. -- 30 minutes
> 1) 802 WG/TAG updates--any items coming out of the WG/TAG interim
> sessions the EC should be aware of? now is the time to bring them up
> -- 30 minutes
> 2) 802 Overview and Architecture revision project status update -- 15
> minutes
> 3) IEEE SA items--the SASB meetings start 15JUN--status update on the
> Amazon single-copy sales channel project --5 minutes
> 4) IEEE SA BoG update -- report from May BoG meeting--10 minutes
> 5) spare time for other topics -- 30 minutes
>
> The toughest thing to do will be to find a time when all EC members
> are available. I've suggested the time/date of 1-3pm ET
> 11JUN2010--all EC members please keep that timeslot open and confirm
> you are available. While your are at it--please reserve time for
> 1-3pm ET 01OCT2010 and 1-3pm ET 04FEB2011...
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Thompson" <thompson@ieee.org>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim
> EC telecon meetings
>
>
>> Paul-
>> In my view, this proposal helps substantially except that we need to
>> be careful on the open meeting aspect.
>> That means that the conference calls would require:
>> - sufficient advance notice of the conference call
>> - sufficient distribution of the advance notice
>> - sufficient conference ports available for observers
>> And, since this would be a significant change in process (even if not
>> in rules) then I don't think we should do it until after the next
>> Plenary so that we can adjust the expectations of our constituency at
>> that time.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> On 4/26/10 11:10 AM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> That is a very interesting suggestion--it gives us time to hash
>>> things out in real time and then make a quick decision in non-real,
>>> rule-compliant time...hmmm.
>>>
>>> --Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shellhammer, Steve"
>>> <sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM>
>>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of
>>> interim EC telecon meetings
>>>
>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> One way to deal with this is to hold a non-voting meeting where we
>>>> discuss motions and then to have a post-meeting electronic ballot,
>>>> on each motion. So the discussion could take place during the
>>>> call. We could even have a straw poll and it there is controversy
>>>> discuss what the controversy is.
>>>>
>>>> The main issue is the overhead of having the electronic ballot.
>>>> Maybe a simple spreadsheet could be used to combine all the motions
>>>> onto a single spreadsheet and people could just enter their votes.
>>>> It is more overhead but it would be helpful to the WGs on motions
>>>> to go to Sponsor ballot and RevCom. We might end up with less
>>>> conditional motions to go to Sponsor ballot and RevCom since WGs
>>>> would not have to wait 4 months.
>>>>
>>>> I believe this works with the current rules.
>>>>
>>>> Comments?
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>>>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:34 AM
>>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>> Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of
>>>> interim EC telecon meetings
>>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I don't think 2 quite covers the response I gave. My points were
>>>> -- we already have continuous processing available via email votes
>>>> except for submittal of PARs to NesCom.
>>>> PARs to NesCom should continue to be an action taken only at plenaries
>>>> (except perhaps for corrigenda)
>>>> email is best for continuous processing of approval to go to
>>>> sponsor ballot or RevCom
>>>> -- therefore, I don't support having an interim EC meeting for
>>>> these, but I could see one to deal with the topics and coordination
>>>> that get short shrift during a busy plenary
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Pat
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>>>> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Paul Nikolich
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:04 PM
>>>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim
>>>> EC telecon meetings
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> So far the responses generally fall into two categories:
>>>>
>>>> 1) good idea, need to work out details, go for it
>>>> (Apurva, Buzz, Steve, Bruce, Jon, JohnH, Subir, Mike)
>>>>
>>>> 2) not a bad idea, have concerns, proceed with caution
>>>> (Pat, Mat, Tony, James, Geoff, JohnL, David)
>>>>
>>>> Any further opinions? A few people (BobH, Roger, Mark) have yet to
>>>> weigh
>>>> in.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> --Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nikolich"
>>>>> <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
>>>>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll on interim EC telecon meetings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear EC members,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to get your feedback on holding an EC meeting via
>>>>> teleconference
>>>>> between plenary sessions (for example in the 1st week of June,
>>>>> October and
>>>>> February). My though is we'd hold a 2 hour telecon to make
>>>>> decisions on
>>>>> time-critical items such as PAR approvals, Sponsor Ballot initiation
>>>>> approvals, RevCom submissions, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd make sure we'd have an agenda posted 30 days in advance an all
>>>>> the
>>>>> materials necessary to make such decisions available for review at
>>>>> least
>>>>> one week before the telecon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts? Please provide your feedback by 23APR. I'll summarize the
>>>>> feedback and if the response is positive, I'd like us to consider
>>>>> holding
>>>>> the first such meeting 1pm-3pm ET Friday 04JUN2010.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> --Paul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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