Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC telecon meetings
Colleagues, I honestly think we are beginning to be way too anal about
"The Rules". My suggestion would be that if we have a proposal for new
policy which is not strictly prohibited by our existing rules but not
explicitly allowed either, then we may by a simple majority vote to enable a
trial period for the new policy, so that we can decide if it is in fact a
beneficial and worthwhile policy or not, and then based on that decide
whether to proceed with the rule change to make the policy explicit or
abandon the policy. Given the large amount and time and energy that goes
into making a rule change, I would hate to see us have to go through all of
that only to later decide it wasn't a useful policy after all and have to
reverse the rule change. I don't think we want our rules to handcuff us and
prevent us from trying out possible process improvements to judge whether
they are useful or not. Once we are sure we want to make the change, it is
a simple matter to bundle the rule change text into the next rule change
process cycle, and if that takes a while, so be it; it does not need to
prevent us from benefitting from the new process.
We've lived with rules in process for extended periods without serious
side-effects. I don't see why we need to suddenly allow rules procedures to
inhibit and deter all innovations. Allowing for rule extensions to
accommodate new tools and process improvements should be an easy matter not
a grueling procedure. :-)
Thanx, Buzz
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On
Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:46 PM
To: Paul Nikolich
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] straw poll summary of on the question of interim EC
telecon meetings
Paul-
I think you have slightly mis-characterized the responses
I would characterize #2 as
2) Not necessarily a bad idea but orthogonal to the spirit and letter of
our rules.
Should not proceed until until the topic is tackled within the scope of
our rules change process
Geoff
On 4/23/10 1:03 PM, Paul Nikolich wrote:
> All,
>
> So far the responses generally fall into two categories:
>
> 1) good idea, need to work out details, go for it
> (Apurva, Buzz, Steve, Bruce, Jon, JohnH, Subir, Mike)
>
> 2) not a bad idea, have concerns, proceed with caution
> (Pat, Mat, Tony, James, Geoff, JohnL, David)
>
> Any further opinions? A few people (BobH, Roger, Mark) have yet to
> weigh in.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul
>
>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Nikolich"
>> <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
>> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:19 AM
>> Subject: [802SEC] straw poll on interim EC telecon meetings
>>
>>
>> Dear EC members,
>>
>> I'd like to get your feedback on holding an EC meeting via
>> teleconference between plenary sessions (for example in the 1st week
>> of June, October and February). My though is we'd hold a 2 hour
>> telecon to make decisions on time-critical items such as PAR
>> approvals, Sponsor Ballot initiation approvals, RevCom submissions, etc.
>>
>> I'd make sure we'd have an agenda posted 30 days in advance an all
>> the materials necessary to make such decisions available for review
>> at least one week before the telecon.
>>
>> Thoughts? Please provide your feedback by 23APR. I'll summarize the
>> feedback and if the response is positive, I'd like us to consider
>> holding the first such meeting 1pm-3pm ET Friday 04JUN2010.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
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