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Re: [802SEC] ITU Conformity Database



Hi All,
The ITU-T Conformity Database WTSC is meeting in Dallas this week and possibly some more information will be forwarded to the appropriate
people within the ITU for further clarity. 
Regards, Nancy

On Jan 25, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:

> What the ITU is doing seems to be remote from being in the "conformity assesment business" or from giving a "mark". From what I see here, they aren't certifying the products or the conformity test houses. They are only providing a place to register that you have had conformity tests done on a product by someone. The registration is only as credible as the laboratory or certification body that is entered by the product owner.
> 
> I note that it says "Accredited Laboratory" and "Accredited Certification Body". Who is doing the accreditation?
> 
> Pat
> 
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> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List ***** [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:33 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] ITU Conformity Database
> 
> EC Colleagues-
> 
> I would urge you to pay close attention to this initiative as well as 
> doing some consciousness raising with your employers as to the direction 
> in which this is appearing to go.  It could have significant cost and 
> competitive impact on the networking business.
> 
> At the current level (from a 2 minute inspection) it would appear to be 
> pretty weak, perhaps not even as strong as if we had a database of 
> filled in PICS from 802 vendors.
> 
> This is all the more worthy of our attention because the IEEE-SA has 
> also been talking about getting into the "conformity assessment" 
> business (as a new source of revenue).  I would expect that the IEEE-SA 
> would view this sort of move by the ITU as further 
> pressure/justification/rationale for the SA to enter this area.  I would 
> hope that 802 would have some input/influence on SA initiatives in this 
> area (but I have my doubts once the SA gets the bit in its teeth on an 
> idea).
> 
> My personal opinion is that there is massive opportunity for conflict of 
> interest (or appearance thereof) on the part of an SDO to be in the 
> conformity assesment business.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Geoff
> 
> On 1/25/10 7:59 AM, MJLynch@mjlallc.com wrote:
>> Dear RR-TAG and EC,
>> 
>> Attached is the url to the ITU conformity database which went on line last Friday. This is the evolution of the earlier "ITU Mark" proposal. It may be a good idea to review this concept with your sponsors. During the March meeting we can discuss if the RR-TAG should draft comments.
>> 
>> http://www.itu.int/net/ITU-T/cdb/
>> 
>> The concept of a conformity database seems to be expanding. Last Thursday at the ETSI 5th network security workshop an initiative to create an EU "mark" and pursuit of a similar course of action as the ITU is taking was discussed.
>> 
>> It is beginning to appear that this topic is not going to disappear. A constructive and effective response may be appropriate.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Mike
>> +1.972.814.4901
>> 
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