Re: [802SEC] FW: Get IEEE 802 report
Geoff
Sorry about that, I used my old email list and it had your old address.
I passed on what Karen sent me with the restrictions that she indicated.
If we don't agree with this, then the EC should agree to a statement to
be sent to the IEEE regarding what should be sent to the EC and what we
will keep secret.
I will send a copy to you directly.
James Gilb
Geoff Thompson wrote:
> James-
>
> I did not get the original.
> Do you have my correct e-mail address which is <thompson@ieee.org>?
> Please resend.
>
> Since I haven't seen the report it is difficult for me to comment on the
> need to keep the contents private.
> What I can say is, that it has been my experience that the IEEE staff
> and boards try to keep their business information much more closely held
> than I believe is appropriate for the staff and governance of a
> volunteer organization.
>
> Is there actual data in the "Get IEEE 802" report that goes beyond what
> has been publicly available from 802 financial reports and minutes?
> The complete history of our agreements and contributions are available
> there.
>
> Further, if the IEEE has any desire to modify the agreement, we as
> members the Exec are duty bound to present the financial rationale to
> our constituents. Even more so in the current financial climate. "Trust
> Us" doesn't cut it.
>
> Geoff
>
> On 7/12/09 7:47 AM, Stephens, Adrian P wrote:
>> I agree with Tony.
>>
>> Privacy should only be necessary when we need to protect the
>> proprietary financial information of potential multiple vendors from
>> each other.
>>
>> Given that we have only one vendor for the get802 programme, this is
>> not the situation, and complete openness should be the default position.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Adrian P Stephens
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tony Jeffree
>> Sent: 12 July 2009 00:02
>> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>> Subject: [802SEC] FW: Get IEEE 802 report
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
>> Sent: 12 July 2009 08:01
>> To: 'James Gilb'; 'Paul Nikolich'; 'Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)';
>> 'Pat Thaler'; 'John
>> Hawkins'; 'Kathryn M. Cush'; 'Geoff Thompson'; 'Paul Congdon';
>> 'David_Law@ieee.org'; 'Wael
>> Diab'; 'Bruce Kraemer'; 'Stephens, Adrian P'; 'Jon Rosdahl'; 'Bob
>> Heile'; 'Rick Alfvin';
>> 'Pat Kinney'; 'Roger B. Marks'; 'Puthenkulam, Jose P'; 'J Lemon';
>> 'Refaek (Rafi) Ram';
>> 'Michael Lynch'; 'Peter Murray'; 'Shellhammer, Steve'; 'Ivan Reede';
>> 'Klerer, Mark';
>> 'Radhakrishna Canchi'; 'Vivek Gupta'; 'Subir Das'; 'Carl R Stevenson';
>> 'Gerald Chouinard';
>> 'Karen Kenney'; 'M.Kipness@ieee.org'
>> Subject: RE: Get IEEE 802 report
>>
>> James -
>>
>> I don't get why there is a perceived need to keep this information
>> private - it isn't any
>> more detailed (and in some ways it is less detailed - no info on costs
>> for example) than
>> the info that has been presented at previous EC meetings, which are
>> public meetings with
>> publicly accessible minutes.
>>
>> What it does show is that the predominant income source for the
>> program is the LMSC
>> contributions; that being the case, I believe that our membership is
>> *entitled* to have
>> access to this information (including the missing info on costs) so
>> our members can see
>> what we are paying for.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Gilb [mailto:gilb@ieee.org]
>> Sent: 12 July 2009 04:23
>> To: Paul Nikolich; Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA); Pat Thaler; John
>> Hawkins; Kathryn M.
>> Cush; James Gilb; Geoff Thompson; Tony Jeffree; Paul Congdon;
>> David_Law@ieee.org; Wael
>> Diab; Bruce Kraemer; Stephens, Adrian P; Jon Rosdahl; Bob Heile; Rick
>> Alfvin; Pat Kinney;
>> Roger B. Marks; Puthenkulam, Jose P; J Lemon; Refaek (Rafi) Ram;
>> Michael Lynch; Peter
>> Murray; Shellhammer, Steve; Ivan Reede; Klerer, Mark; Radhakrishna
>> Canchi; Vivek Gupta;
>> Subir Das; Carl R Stevenson; Gerald Chouinard; Karen Kenney;
>> M.Kipness@ieee.org
>> Subject: Get IEEE 802 report
>>
>> Dear EC members
>>
>> I have been asked by Karen Kenney to distribute this to the private EC
>> list as it contains financial information. A public version will be
>> posted to the 802 web site.
>>
>> Karen will not be in San Francisco.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> James Gilb
>> 802 EC Recording Secretary
>>
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