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Re: [802SEC] Electronic Participation in Interim Meetings



Todd,

As is true for all members of the 802 EC, Bob is legally speaking for
himself, and is explicitly acknowledged to be doing so by his sponsor as
part of being allowed on the 802 EC. Although most, if not all, of us
have our expenses paid by some sponsor(s) in order to attend 802
meetings, all of us attend, speak, and vote as individuals, representing
our best judgment as individuals.

Finally, as monger is most often a pejorative term, I take offense at
your using this to describe any member of the 802 EC.

John Lemon

On 1/13/2009 12:33 PM, TSG wrote:
> Bob Heile wrote:
>> Mat
>>
>> I am strongly against this.  Face to face meetings are the most
>> conducive to an effective exchange and debate of ideas. Frequent
>> telecons between meetings lets everyone participate but the meeting
>> itself should not be compromised.  Beyond that it sets a dangerous
>> precedent for extending that to Task and Working group meetings.
> Bob - this is ONLY true if you have a specific financial interest in
> the creation of Standards - and apparently you do, meaning that you
> are a professional standards 'monger' for lack of a better term.
>
> The problem you face is that what you and your sponsors are facing is
> responsibility for your commentary here. I suggest that you check with
> BAE Systems General Counsel's office on this as to whether you can
> legally speak for them or not.
>
> Todd Glassey
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> At 12:54 PM 1/10/2009 -0500, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
>>
>>> EC Members,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have received requests from TV Whitespace ECSG members to allow
>>> electronic participation (teleconference / Webex) for the ECSG meetings
>>> at the upcoming Wireless Interim in LA.  I have discussed this with the
>>> IEEE 802.11 Chair (Bruce) who has no objection, and made sure that
>>> appropriate facilities are available.  I checked with the IEEE 802
>>> chair
>>> (Paul) who said he would permit electronic participation for the
>>> ECSG at
>>> the interim if it was conducted as an 'Experiment' (with hypothesis and
>>> metrics) to see if it adds clear value to the standards process.
>>> Accordingly we have formulated a hypothesis and metrics and plan to
>>> conduct three two hour meetings at the wireless interim that include
>>> electronic participation, and will conduct straw polls at the end of
>>> the
>>> session to see if the metrics support our hypothesis.   We will make
>>> the
>>> results of this experiment available to the EC at the March session,
>>> along with other planned outputs from the ECSG.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any questions about this, please feel free to contact me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Matthew Sherman
>>> Chair, IEEE802 Whitespace ECSG
>>> BAE Systems -  Network Systems (NS)
>>> Office: +1 973.633.6344
>>> Cell: +1 973.229.9520
>>> email:  matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>>> <mailto:matthew.sherman@baesystems.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> Bob Heile, Ph.D
>> Chairman, ZigBee Alliance
>> Chair, IEEE 802.15 Working Group on Wireless Personal Area Networks
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