Re: [802SEC] Motion to return 802.20 to individual voting rights
Dear James,
I have a question on this motion.
> On 16 July 2007, the UC-EC voted to make voting for 802.20 to
> be based on entity affiliation.
As per this point, I'm assuming there was some "cause" for which, this
action was taken by the UC-EC. Has the UC-EC determined that the
circumstances in the group are different now? For which the previous
action can be revoked.
Because from Dec 2007 (I guess the year is a typo in your email) SASB
minutes it seems only the oversight responsibility was transferred to
the 802 EC.
Also the EC motion from Nov 2007 (I'm guessing this is another year
typo) only requests the NC-EC to be dissolved, so can one draw the
conclusion from that motion that the circumstances in the 802.20 WG has
changed? Because even if the NC-EC is dissolved it only shifts the
oversight responsibility to the full EC.
My suggestion for this would be that the 802.20 WG pass a motion
explicitly requesting this at the July plenary and then the EC take
action. I would think this is a more orderly way of proceeding.
Is it possible to know maybe, if the 802.20 WG has already requested
this change? If they have, then this might be a non-issue.
Thanks & best regards,
jose
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> From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of James Gilb
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 4:37 AM
> To: 802 SEC
> Subject: [802SEC] Motion to return 802.20 to individual voting rights
>
> All
>
> I am looking for a second for this one. Paul N. will
> determine the valid voting pool (all EC or UC-EC).
>
> Rationale:
>
> On 16 July 2007, the UC-EC voted to make voting for 802.20 to
> be based on entity affiliation.
>
> SASB returned oversight of the 802.20 WG to the UC-EC in
> December 2007.
>
> Dec 2008 SASB minutes -- "Move to (1) disband the SASB
> Oversight Committee, and (2) return oversight control to the
> 802 Executive Committee with an offer of continuing support
> for situations where the
> 802 EC wishes to seek our help."
>
> The above motion passed after reviewing the EC motion from
> November 2006 requesting that "the NC-EC be dissolved once
> the 802.20 standard is approved by the SASB."
>
> The 802.20 standard has been approved by the SASB.
>
> Motion
> -------------
> Moved to return the 802.20 working group to individual voting
> at the beginning of the July 2008 plenary meeting. Voting
> rights shall be determined on historical attendance credits
> per the 802.20 P&P, and superior rules.
> --------------
>
> Furthermore, the 802.20 rules and the 802 LMSC rules do not
> explicitly deal with entity voting Working Groups (For
> example, what constitutes an entity? In 802.20 sponsor
> ballot, various individuals were grouped by the oversight
> committee into a single entity vote.)
>
> If we want to convert 802.20 to entity or mixed balloting
> group, we should take to the time to write the P&P to support
> this. In the mean time, I think it would be best to return
> 802.20 to where it was.
>
> James Gilb
>
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