Re: [802SEC] +++ 802 EC motion to allow consideration of 802.11 PARs in July
Approve
On 6/20/2008 2:33 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> +++++++ Corrected text of motion: +++++
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This is a 10 day email ballot of the IEEE 802 EC. This ballot will close
> 30 June 2008 (anywhere on Earth). Paul has delegated conduct of this
> ballot to me. Because this is a ballot to suspend the rules, Paul has
> ruled that it will require a vote of 2/3 of EC with voting rights
> members to pass.
>
> Motion:
> This motion is for the PARs:
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-p
> a>
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-pa
> r-nescom-form.doc
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-p
> ar-nescom-form.doc>
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0715-00-0vht-60-ghz-par-ne
> s>
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0715-00-0vht-60-ghz-par-nes
> com-form.doc
> which were to the EC circulated 2 days less than the required 30 days
> prior to the Opening Excecutive Committee meeting of the July 2008
> plenary.
>
> Moved to Suspend the rules to allow consideration of the 802.11 Below 6
> GHz PAR and the 802.11 60 GHz PAR at the July 2008 closing EC meeting.
>
> Mover: Pat Thaler
> Seconder: Bruce Kraemer
>
> Regards,
> Pat Thaler
>
> Good catch Mark, I had intended to remove that because I decided it
> wasn't necessary - if a WG has a problem with the PARs it can use the
> comment process. And I think people should know whether the EC is going
> to allow the motion before the meeting.
>
> Note however that I disagree with your rationale. The 30 day in advance
> rule is to circulate to the EC reflector, not just the EC. That means
> that any member can see those announcements by checking the EC reflector
> 30 days before the meeting. They don't need to depend on their chairs to
> circulate the information.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klerer, Mark [mailto:mklerer@qualcomm.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Pat Thaler; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: +++ 802 EC motion to allow consideration of 802.11 PARs in
> July
>
> Why do we have the "except clause" for a WG objecting? Will the WG have
> to object by a simple majority vote? There is no requirement for each WG
> to see it 30 days in advance just for the EC. The individual WG chairs
> can than circulate that information. So I would not complicate the
> motion with that proviso.
>
> Anyway I will vote approve either way.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
> [mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 4:54 PM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: +++ 802 EC motion to allow consideration of 802.11 PARs in July
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> This is a 10 day email ballot of the IEEE 802 EC. This ballot will close
> 30 June 2008 (anywhere on Earth). Paul has delegated conduct of this
> ballot to me. Because this is a ballot to suspend the rules, Paul has
> ruled that it will require a vote of 2/3 of EC with voting rights
> members to pass.
>
> Motion:
> This motion is for the PARs:
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-p
> a>
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-pa
> r-nescom-form.doc
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0716-00-0vht-below-6-ghz-p
> ar-nescom-form.doc>
> <https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0715-00-0vht-60-ghz-par-ne
> s>
> https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0715-00-0vht-60-ghz-par-nes
> com-form.doc
> which were to the EC circulated 2 days less than the required 30 days
> prior to the Opening Excecutive Committee meeting of the July 2008
> plenary.
>
> Moved to Suspend the rules to allow consideration of the 802.11 Below 6
> GHz PAR and the 802.11 60 GHz PAR at the July 2008 closing EC meeting.
>
> Mover: Pat Thaler
> Seconder: Bruce Kraemer
>
> Regards,
> Pat Thaler
>
>
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