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Re: [802SEC] +++un-conflicted EC motion #4 regarding 802.20+++determine Mark Klerer's unconflcted/conflicted classification+++need mover and seconder+++



Mike,

I suppose we've changed the way we operate since you've retired from the EC. 
Conflicted EC members (or any 802 participant) may participate in UC-EC 
agenda item discussions--we've been operating that way at least since 
November 2007--the only restriction is they cannot make/second motions or 
vote.

Regards,

--Paul


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Takefman" <michael.takefman@sympatico.ca>
To: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>; 
<STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++un-conflicted EC motion #4 regarding 
802.20+++determine Mark Klerer's unconflcted/conflicted 
classification+++need mover and seconder+++


> Paul,
>
> I'd like to highlight something that might not be obvious.
>
> Normally, conflicted members of the EC are not allowing into the UC-EC 
> meetings.
> I believe that even if Mr. Klerer is declared conflicted, as the chair of 
> .20, he must be allowed to participate in
> those meetings in spite of his conflicted status. Then he may request UC 
> members to make/second his motion.
> Whereas, other members who are deemed to be conflicted should remain out 
> of the meetings.
>
> cheers,
>
> mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
> To: <STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:45 PM
> Subject: [802SEC] +++un-conflicted EC motion #4 regarding 
> 802.20+++determine Mark Klerer's unconflcted/conflicted 
> classification+++need mover and seconder+++
>
>
>> Dear Unconflicted EC members,
>>
>> There has been discussion over the past wek regarding the 
>> conflicted/un-conflicted classification of Mark Klerer, specifically that 
>> if he is not made a member of the UC-EC perhaps he should be given unique 
>> status regarding placing 802.20 WG motions before the UC-EC.  I don't 
>> believe special status is needed to ensure fair and proper consideration 
>> of 802.20 WG business by the UC-EC. A special status will only serve to 
>> complicate the unconflicted EC and conflicted EC classification process. 
>> If Mark is classified as conflicted, he will have the right to propose 
>> that an UC-EC member place a motion on the floor on his behalf, 
>> participate in crafting the motion language and voicing an opinion on 
>> changes to it.
>>
>> To that end, I'd like to propose the following motion:
>>
>> Motion: Mark Klere shall not be added to the Unconflicted EC roster and 
>> shall have the right to propose that an UC-EC member place a UC-EC motion 
>> on the floor on his behalf, participate in crafting the motion language 
>> and voicing an opinion on changes to it.
>>
>> I need a mover and and seconder for the above motion.  Only UC-EC members 
>> may participate in the vote.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Paul Nikolich
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