Re: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
Sorry ... I stand corrected.
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pthaler@broadcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:11 PM
> To: wk3c@wk3c.com; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
>
> Carl,
>
> RROR says that I can amend a motion that is already passed.
> It is essentially another form of the motion to rescind. RROR
> is usually sensible when you get down to it and doesn't
> require doing two motions - one to rescind and another to put
> the correct action in place when it could be done with one
> motion to "amend something previously adopted:
>
> From RROR Chapter IX Motions that bring a question again
> before the assembly, Section 35 Rescind; Amend something
> previously adopted:
>
> §35. RESCIND; AMEND SOMETHING PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED
> By means of the motions to Rescind and to Amend Something
> Previously Adopted - which are two forms of one [page 294]
> incidental main motion governed by identical rules - the
> assembly can change an action previously taken or ordered.
> Rescind - also known as Repeal or Annul - is the motion by
> which a previous action or order can be canceled or
> countermanded. The effect of Rescind is to strike out an
> entire main motion, resolution, rule, bylaw, section, or
> paragraph that has been adopted at some previous time. Amend
> Something Previously Adopted is the motion that can be used
> if it is desired to change only a part of the text, or to
> substitute a different version.
>
> Therefore, if you think it would be legitimate to rescind, it
> is just as legitimate to amend the motion previously adopted.
> They run under exactly the same rules.
>
> Sincerely,
> Pat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl R. Stevenson [mailto:wk3c@wk3c.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 4:59 PM
> To: Pat Thaler; STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: RE: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
>
> Pat,
>
> I don't think that you can ammend a motion that already passed.
>
> You can make a motion to recind the previous action and adopt
> a different
> decision, however, and be procedurally correct.
>
> Again, while I'm not Paul, according to my understanding of
> our rules, our
> session ended at 6:00 pm EST on Friday with the close of the
> EC meeting, so
> it is no longer a motion to reconsider that would require the
> motion be made
> by one on the prevailing side.
>
> Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Pat Thaler
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:20 PM
> > To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > Subject: [802SEC] Motion to amend Rome to Vancouver
> >
> > Colleagues,
> >
> > The list server seems to not like something about my post of
> > the motion
> > to amend our decision on plenary location for March 2009. So
> > here it is
> > without the rationale. I hope that will get rid of whatever
> > word in the
> > message is causing a problem.
> >
> > If Paul rules that it is in order, I would like to make a motion to
> > amend the previously adopted motion to replace "Rome" with
> > "Vancouver".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pat
> >
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