Re: [802SEC] Comment on non-North-America venue
G'day Andrew, Where I do understand your sentiments, I would really
like to challenge you to find even one venue anywhere in China that can
do a full 802 Plenary Session with all the necessary facilities for less
than a USA venue such as Atlanta or Orlando. Just show me one and I'll
happily buy you a pint at your favorite pub !!! :-)
Everything we have looked at that had even marginal facilities was 2x to
3x more expensive. So maybe we just don't where to look. Show me, I'd
really love to find it. :-)
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
Ph: (425) 373-8960 Fx: (425) 865-7960
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Myles (amyles) [mailto:amyles@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:18 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O; Herbert Ruck
Cc: dawns@facetoface-events.com; stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Comment on non-North-America venue
G'day all
I just have to respond to the comment from Herbert that, "With the weak
US Dollar visiting the US becomes cheap for visitors like China. It is
very convenient and advantageous for "foreign" members to attend
meetings in the US."
This argument would have merit if IEEE 802 had held many meetings in
other countries when the US dollar was "strong". They did not do so, and
so the argument has no merit.
I would also note that it is always more convenient (and much cheaper)
for
Chinese members to have meetings in Beijing and not in North America.
In fact, if cost was the only factor, it would actually make sense to
hold all meetings in Beijing because costs in China are very low. The
fact we do not hold all meetings in Beijing tells me we accept cost is
not the only factor.
Andrew Myles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Rigsbee,
Everett O
Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2007 5:07 AM
To: Herbert Ruck
Cc: dawns@facetoface-events.com; stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Comment on non-North-America venue
Thank you Herbert for taking the time to submit these thoughtful and
detailed comments.
I will share them with the IEEE-802 SEC who will ultimately be charged
with making the decisions on our future venue choices.
I apologize for your difficulty with the email address. We'll check
to see if there is a problem at our end.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
Ph: (425) 373-8960 Fx: (425) 865-7960
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
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From: Herbert Ruck [mailto:hruck@navini.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 9:11 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: Herbert Ruck
Subject: Comment on non-North-America venue
Dear Dr. Rigsbee,
I have responded to the survey but I have a few additional comments.
The 802info@ieee e-mail to which we were supposed to send
the comments is "not recognized" by my mail system so that I send
them to you directly.
1) Location of the hotel
It is more convenient to meet at hotels that are located close to the
center of cities.
In San Francisco, New York, Vancouver, Beijing or Atlanta the
large hotels constitute the center (downtown) of cities.
In Rome all modern large hotels are far outside the center of the city.
We have only a few minutes between the meetings to go outside
the hotel so that being away from the city is of no interest.
2) New York City location
At the prices listed in your survey of $500 per night and $1200
registration fees it should be possible to meet in New York City.
In discussions with people at the 802 meetings New York is regularly
mentioned as a desirable place to meet.
3) Weak Dollar
With the weak US Dollar visiting the US becomes cheap for visitors
like China. It is very convenient and advantageous for "foreign" members
to attend meetings in the US.
Best regards
Herbert Ruck
herbert.ruck@ieee.org
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