Re: [802SEC] Arnie's concern regarding submittals to ITU WP8F
Colleagues:
I am not attempting to stop a discussion of this issue at the EC to
things clarified, but think is important to point out some things to
think about.
What constitutes an intergovernmental body? Does 14.1 ever apply to
standards development groups with national body voting?
I believe liaison communications from WGs to multiple groups with
national body voting have long been conducted under 14.1 requirements,
not under 14.2 requirements. While ITU-R may be the focus for more LMSC
WGs than ITU-T, there are still a couple groups that have ITU-T issues
to liaise.
--Bob Grow
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[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Carl R. Stevenson
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 6:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [802SEC] Arnie's concern regarding submittals to ITU WP8F
Dear EC members,
I support Arnie's request that this be the subject of an EC discussion
(during one of the EC meetings, NOT during the week when WG Chairs have
WG
meetings to run). I think that this is important enough that it
deserves to
be allocated more than a cursory 5-10 minutes of discussion time, too.
I believe that submissions to ITU need to be reviewed by .18, be
approved
(or reviewed under the 5 day rule) by the EC, and be submitted by Mike
Lynch
(the designated liaison to ITU-R for the IEEE's sector membership) for a
review by Terry deCourcelle at SA HQ before being submitted to ITU-R as
an
IEEE contribution.
The IEEE is the Sector Member ... neither .16 nor any other WG has, or
should have, any standing to submit contributions to ITU-R ... that
right
is, as it should be, reserved for Sector Members and Member States per
ITU
rules (if this rule has been ignored or skirted in the past that should
not
constitute an excuse to continue the practice).
IEEE needs to maintain control over the use of its sector membership in
ITU-R, not only to maintain a level playing field amongst potentially
competing internal interest groups, but also in order to maintain its
image
and the privilege of sector membership.
Regards,
Carl
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> All:
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> Paul has requested that I bring a concern that I have to the attention
> of the EC and that this subject be added as an agenda item for
> discussion by the EC in Atlanta. This message is in the way of a heads
> up to the members of the EC so that we can exchange views on the Ec
> reflector.
>
> Briefly;
> My concern is that the chair of 802.16 has announced his intention of
> making a separate submittal to WP8F other than the joint submittal
> administered by 802.18 at the direction of the EC. I think that a
> separate submittal by 802.16 is inappropriate and contrary to the
> express direction of the EC. I request that the EC clarify their
> direction so that all working groups will be playing on a
> level playing field.
> Arnie Greenspan
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