Re: [802SEC] Interpretation of current P&P
Bob -
I would like an item put on the Monday AM agenda to discuss this please.
Regards,
Tony
At 20:40 29/10/2007, Bob O'Hara (boohara) wrote:
>I believe that the intent of the policy is to require WG approval for a
>chair to serve more than 10 years, i.e, to be elected more than five
>times or to be appointed to replace an elected chair and then be elected
>more than four times. I think the phrase "has served ... more than
>eight years" is the key to determining this meaning. The use of past
>tense seems to allow the chair to be elected to five terms or to serve
>out a partial term after being appointed and then be elected to four
>more terms. If the intent was to limit a chair to no more than four
>complete terms, the text could easily have said that.
>
>I agree with Carl that the text can be improved to make this meaning
>clearer.
>
>If Tony has been elected four times and you accept my reasoning above, I
>think there is not a need for the WG to get involved in this mess at
>this time.
>
> -Bob
>
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>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Interpretation of current P&P
>
>Dear all,
>
>While the words may not say *exactly* that, I concur with Roger's
>interpretation of the intent of our provision as meaning "four two year
>terms" (or at least the better part of the span of 4 March to
>March_plus_2_years terms ... I don't think that it was ever intended
>that a
>matter a few weeks would make a difference)
>
>Having said that, I want to make it clear that I am not suggesting that
>Tony
>should be forced from office, that I respect his service, and that I
>strongly suspect that if he wishes to continue he would likely get his
>WG's
>endorsement to do so ...
>
>Matt: ... I think we should clarify this in a future P&P revision.
>
>Regards,
>Carl
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of
> > Roger B. Marks
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:20 PM
> > To: Tony Jeffree
> > Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> > Subject: Re: [802SEC] Interpretation of current P&P
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > I think that the intent of "eight years" is "four two-year terms".
> >
> > On the other hand, if we take the "eight years" literally, then I
> > think we ought to look at the calendar. According to my records, the
> > March 2000 session ended on 9 March and the March 2008 session opens
> > on 17 March.
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Tony Jeffree wrote:
> >
> > > I have a question for clarification of the current P&P with regard
> > > to the wording in 7.2.2. It states:
> > >
> > > "An individual who has served as Chair or Vice Chair of a given WG
> > > for a total of more than
> > > eight years in that office may not run for election to that office
> > > again, unless the question of
> > > allowing that individual to run for election again is
> > approved by a
> > > 75% vote of the WG one
> > > plenary in advance of that election."
> > >
> > > I am now in my 8th year as 802.1 Chair, having first been
> > appointed
> > > Chair at the end of the March 2000 Plenary session. So when the
> > > elections are run in March 2008, I will have been Chair for not
> > > quite 8 years, as the appointment occurs at the end of the session
> > > (see 7.1.2). I therefore interpret the above as meaning that I
> > > don't need a 75% approval vote of my WG in November to allow me to
> > > run for re-election in March. Is my interpretation correct?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tony
> > >
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