Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009 - Please VOTE Now !!!
Pat & Roger, Actually the administration is fairly simple if you do it
through the registration process: whereby you have a choice to register
and book a room at the same time or you can chose to register without a
room but pay the extra fee. If you later cancel your room reservation
the deposit converts to the extra fee. If you also cancel the
registration then it all comes back. It would be easy to use and
understand.
I'm just afraid that the apparent unfriendliness of such a process will
discourage folks from wanting to come to IEEE-802 Plenaries in the first
place. So if we can find a plan that does not require such tactics so
much the better for us all. We want to welcome our attendees
graciously, not subject them to a collection of arbitrary penalties. If
we all make a sincere effort to strongly encourage them to be "Good
IEEE-802 Citizens" by using the facilities which are sponsoring a
non-trivial portion of the costs for the session, we may be able to keep
the collection of folks who try to beat the system to a minimum, and
thereby avoid needing to implement any such punitive tactics, and allow
the few who really do have severe financial constraints have a source
for some relief if they must.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
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-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pthaler@BROADCOM.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:07 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009 - Please VOTE
Now !!!
An extra fee for those attendees was suggested by Buzz when I raised the
concern about room pick-up given the availability of lower priced hotels
in Rome. I believe that the recent Seoul meeting of 802.3 had an extra
fee for those not staying in the hotel. If Buzz can put forward a plan
where it isn't necessary, than I'm fine with that but it is an option
I'm willing to accept.
Regards,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:43 PM
To: Pat Thaler
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Responses on venue for March 2009 - Please VOTE
Now !!!
Pat,
I think that
> extra registration fee of up to $200 for attendees that don't stay
> at the meeting hotel
would be exceedingly difficult to administer.
Roger
On Sep 26, 2007, at 03:59 PM, Pat Thaler wrote:
> Can Rome be set up with the following parameters?
>
> Budget can be made to work with
> anticipated attendance of 1000
> registration fee no more than $100 over our usual plenary
> registration fee
> (or $150 if buffet lunch is included)
> extra registration fee of up to $200 for attendees that don't
> stay at the meeting hotel
> difference between cost and registration fees decreases for
> higher attendance
> difference between meeting cost and registration at 1000
> attendees is within our ability to subsidize from the IEEE 802
> Treasury
>
> And our attendees staying at the hotel are not subjected to excessive
> fees (compared to what we pay at our customary venues) for the usual
> hotel services. Specifically:
> access to fitness center and hotel indoor pool should be free
> in room internet should be no more than 10 Euros
>
> Note: I expect that 1000 is the minimum attendance we will get. Buzz's
> information memo said 800 to 1000 but looking at the past meeting
> history for interims we don't have that much fall off for NA vs non-
> NA,
> actually attendance looks pretty good at previous non-NA meetings.
> "our
> ability to subsidize from the IEEE 802 Treasury" means using the
> treasury funds we have been building up to help with the expected
> extra
> cost of non-NA and not reducing our treasury to a point that endangers
> our ability to operate going forward.
>
> If and only if those parameters can be met, then I vote approve.
>
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