Re: [802SEC] [WGCS:] Update - Rosters are Now Active in myProject
Bob -
Thanks - that helps a lot... I guess its just
unfortunate that staff chose to make the
announcement without any clarification of what is actually going on here.
Regards,
Tony
At 00:35 16/02/2007, Grow, Bob wrote:
>Tony:
>
>I think where we are now is in a transition
>phase. I believe during this year much of what
>currently appears chaotic is planned to become a
>bit more systematic as additional myProject
>capabilities roll out. Per Paul's email, I
>personally plan to let his submission be it
>until more myProject capabilities and
>requirements are in place. Smaller WGs can be
>the beta test for this part of myProject right now.
>
>If I understand it correctly, myProject will be
>providing a consistent method for participants
>to provide a lot of information. When myProject
>is fully implemented, I believe it will be
>possible to require all participants to have a
>web account (something that is free and does not require IEEE-SA membership).
>
>The myProject evolution will affect LMSC and its
>WGs to some extent. I think some things we can
>choose to use and even still influence the
>details of implementation. In other areas,
>requirements will probably be quite firm. Some
>myProject "features" like acknowledgements
>related to copyrights, and Code of Ethics
>requirements will be firm and cause minor
>changes in some LMSC WG process/procedures.
>
>The requested list is related to another that I
>believe is firm. The list's purpose is for
>indemnification of participants, and has existed
>in various forms for a long time. Paul list is
>all participants to be indemnified. What is in
>myProject currently is probably (as you deduce)
>just those with web identities (which is closely
>correlated to SA members with interest area
>subscription). If indemnification is tied to
>having a web identity and subscribing to the
>interest areas (e.g., becoming a participant),
>then the need for Paul's list submission will go
>away. If you don't follow the rules, you don't get indemnified.
>
>There is an SASB ad hoc chartered to clarify the
>terminology you complain about (member,
>participant, observer, voting/non-voting,
>etc.) Once that is done, those terms should be
>made consistent in IEEE-SA governing documents
>and myProject (allowing a trickle down to
>Sponsors and WGs). I'm not sure how the names
>will sort out, but for example, participants
>could include participation by correspondence
>(e.g., reflector subscription), non-voting
>members are those that attend meetings, voting
>members are those that meet additional
>requirements (e.g., for LMSC: meet minimum
>attendance requirements, ballot participation,
>declaration of affiliation, valid contact information and request membership).
>
>--Bob Grow
>
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>Subject: Re: [802SEC] [WGCS:] Update - Rosters are Now Active in myProject
>
>Jodi -
>
>If I correctly read between the lines of your
>message below, the set of names that currently
>appears in the system for 802 Working Groups is
>basically those *IEEE-SA members* that have web
>accounts and that have expressed an interest in
>802 (presumably by enrolling in the various
>balloting groups? your message is not clear on
>that point). As there are many 802 participants
>and voters that are not, and never will be,
>IEEE-SA members, I don't see that this mechanism
>will be of any use as a means of managing 802
>membership rosters, as there will be no means of
>entering data against non-SA member participants.
>My guess in the case of 802.1 (and probably the
>other 802 WGs as well) is that SA members are in
>the minority of 802 participants.
>
>Regards,
>Tony
>
>At 19:33 15/02/2007, you wrote:
>
> >I have received numerous questions on how to manage the standards
> >development rosters in myProject. More information is below:
> >
> >Currently, access to the roster tool in myProject is limited to the
> >sponsor, working group chair and ballot designee of a standards development
> >project.
> >
> >Names cannot be added to the roster, neither directly into the system nor
> >by uploading a .csv file by the person who has access. If someone should
> >be added to the roster, that person needs to log in to myProject and
> >indicate an interest in that project. If your group would like to use this
> >tool, I would suggest sending the following text to your
> >participants/members:
> >
> >"Our group will now be managing our standards development rosters in the
> >myProject system. In order for your name to appear on the roster, please
> >log in to myProject (https://development.standards.ieee.org/my-site) and go
> >to Select Activity Profile. In order for you to appear on the standards
> >development roster, you must enroll at the project level."
> >
> >Once people enroll, their name will be added to the roster and the person
> >managing the roster can mark people as a Participant, Non-Voting Member or
> >Voting Member as needed.
> >
> >The definitions of these categories are defined in the myProject system as
> >follows:
> >
> >- Participant  Identifies an individual that has met the particiipation
> >requirements, in-person or via email or otherwise, of a committee per the
> >committee̢۪s rules as opposed to having
> simply indindicated their interest by
> >selecting one of the myProject technical areas. Participants are, by
> >definition, also Interested Parties.
> >
> >- Non-Voting-Member  Identifies an
> individual that has met the commiittee̢۪s
>s
> >non-voting-membership requirements per the
> committeeâ€â„„¢s rules as opposed to
> >having simply indicated their interest by selecting one of the myProject
> >technical areas. Non-Voting-Members are, by definition, Interested Parties
> >
> >- Voting-Member  . Identifies an individuaal
> that has met the committee̢۪s
>s
> >voting requirements per the committee̢۪s
> rules as as opposed to having simply
> >indicated their interest by selecting one of the myProject technical areas.
> >Voting-Members are, by definition, Interested Parties.
> >
> >The use of this tool has not been mandated  the tool is available to make
> >managing the standdards development rosters easier. You can still submit
> >standards development rosters outside of the system, and we would suggest
> >using the Excel template attached.
> >
> >Any questions can be sent to me directly.
> >
> >(See attached file: roster.xls)
> >
> >Jodi Haasz
> >Program Manager
> >International Stds Programs and Governance
> >Standards Activities
> >Phone +1 732 562 6367
> >FAX +1 732 875 0695
> >Email: j.haasz@ieee.org
>
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