Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation
I would consider Geoff's changes to be a friendly amendment, and support
his comments.
Regards,
Tony
At 22:56 20/09/2006, Paul Nikolich wrote:
>Mike,
>
>Can you change your comment into a 'friendly amendment'? If we get Tony
>and Mat to agree, we have a way to move this forward.
>
>Regards,
>
>--Paul
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Takefman (tak)" <tak@CISCO.COM>
>To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:14 PM
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later than
>25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6 recommendation
>
>
>>I agree that Geoffs changes should be made.
>>
>>Consider my vote now disapprove.
>>
>>mike
>>
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>>Michael Takefman tak@cisco.com
>>Distinguished Engineer, Cisco Systems
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: ***** IEEE 802 Executive Committee List *****
>>>[mailto:STDS-802-SEC@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Thompson
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:10 PM
>>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC Email ballot (closes no later
>>>than 25SEP2006)+++ Motion to approve the attached EC SC6
>>>recommendation
>>>
>>>Paul/Colleagues-
>>>
>>>I have to join Carl and recommend that these slides be DISAPPROVED
>>>
>>>Please examine these points carefully. I believe they are
>>>worthy of consideration
>>>
>>>The text, early on (slide 4) says:
>>> - * 8802-1 should be modified so that international
>>>standardisation can always be achieved ...
>>>
>>>...which (were there an appropriate WTO case and were I
>>>supporting the "other" side) I would take as evidence for
>>>presentation to the judging
>>>body: "Here, the IEEE even admits that they are NOT a lower
>>>case international standard unless they are blessed by ISO/IEC.
>>>
>>>I do not think we want to say that
>>>I do not think that is the case
>>>I think is not an appropriate position for 802 to take wrt
>>>the position that the IEEE-SA takes for its standards.
>>>
>>>Slide 7 statements open a Pandora's box of issues that might
>>>well be nurturing to a relationship with SC6.
>>>
>>>Slide 9, last bullet
>>>Change:
>>>A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship
>>>with ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of
>>>establishing "international standard" status for an 802.x
>>>standard through ISO/IEC using a simple documented
>>>cooperation process.
>>>
>>>To:
>>>A potential benefit for 802 of a cooperative relationship
>>>with ISO/IEC is that it provides 802 WG's with the option of
>>>widening "international standard" recognition for an 802.x
>>>standard through ISO/IEC using a simple documented cooperation process
>>>
>>>Slide 11:
>>>The title:
>>>"8802-1 should be modified so that international
>>>standardisation can always be achieved ..."
>>>should be changed per my critique of slide 4 above.
>>>
>>>I support slides 12 through 21
>>>
>>>Please carefully consider these items and reconsider your vote
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>
>>>Geoff Thompson
>>>
>>>At 04:23 PM 9/19/2006 , Paul Nikolich wrote:
>>> >Dear EC Members,
>>> >
>>> >A revised version of the IEEE 802 recommendation on the 8802-1 and
>>> >related documents requested by SC6 is attached for EC approval.
>>> >
>>> >Motion: The 802 LMSC EC resolves to adopt the attached SC6
>>> >recommendation version 07 dated 19SEP06 (appropriately
>>>edited to remove
>>> >the "DRAFT" and "Change History" text.)
>>> >
>>> >Moved-Tony Jeffree Seconded-Mat Sherman
>>> >
>>> >Please cast your vote as soon as possible. The ballot closes the
>>> >earlier of either 25 Sept 2006 or 24 hours after every EC
>>>member has cast a vote.
>>> >
>>> >Regards,
>>> >
>>> >--Paul Nikolich
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