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[802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot Results +++ Editorial 2



Dear EC members,

 

Below you will find the current results on this ballot.  Please let me
know if you see any errors in the accounting.

 

The ballot closes on 5/31/2006 @ 11:59 PM EDT.  If you have not already
done so, please vote and provide any comments prior to that time.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

 

 

Mat

 

 

 

 

Voters                  DNV   DIS   APP   ABS   Comments Provided?

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00 Paul Nikolich                    APP         Yes

01 Mat Sherman                      APP         Yes                     

02 Pat Thaler          DNV

03 Buzz Rigsbee         DNV

04 Bob O'Hara                       APP         

05 John Hawkins         DNV

06 Tony Jeffree                     APP

07 Bob Grow             DNV                     

08 Stuart Kerry                     APP

09 Bob Heile            DNV

10 Roger Marks          DNV         

11 Mike Takefman        DNV

12 Mike Lynch           DNV

13 Steve Shellhammer                APP         Yes

14 Jerry Upton          DNV

15 Vivek Gupta                      APP

16 Carl Stevenson                   APP               

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TOTALS                   DNV  DIS  APP  ABS

total:                  -09- -00- -08- -00-

 

 

Ballot Comments:

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John Barr [john.barr@motorola.com]                                Mon
5/1/2006 4:15 PM

 

In the P&P Revision Ballot of 060430 on page 31, line 35 a reference is
made to item 6 above. What is item 6?

 

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Paul Nikolich [paul.nikolich@att.net]                             Thu
5/4/2006 7:44 PM

 

I have one question on the editorial changes in section 7.1.6.2:  why
did we make the change to "LMSC Recording Secretary" from "EC Recording
Secretary"?

 

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Geoff Thompson [gthompso@nortel.com]                              Tue
5/9/2006 12:25 AM

 

I don't think this is substantial, in that it would more accurately
reflect reality.

 

Change:

Page 12, Line 15, from: "LMSC standards are developed within a Working
Group 15 (WG) or Technical Advisory Group (TAG) (see Figure 2)."

 

To:

"LMSC standards are developed within a Working Group (WG). A Technical
Advisory Group (TAG) produces LMSC Recommended Practices or technical
recommendations regarding LMSC issues (see Figure 2)."

 

Page 7, line 38: "WG" should be "WGs" (also several other places too).

 

Geoff

 

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Shellhammer, Steve [sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM]                        Tue
5/9/2006 1:01 PM

 

I believe working groups also produce recommended practices and guides
sometime.  The text implies that if you want to produce a recommended
practice it should be done in a TAG.  I think we should make it clear
that a working group can produce a standard, a recommended practice or a
guide; while a TAG can produce a recommended practice or a guide.

 

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Geoff Thompson [gthompso@NORTEL.COM]                              

 

Steve

 

At 10:01 AM 5/9/2006 , Shellhammer, Steve wrote:

 > I believe working groups also produce recommended practices and
guides  > sometime.  The text implies that if you want to produce a
recommended  > practice it should be done in a TAG.

 

You are correct. My text didn't quite do the job.

 

 > I think we should make it clear

 > that a working group can produce a standard, a recommended practice
or a  > guide; while a TAG can produce a recommended practice or a
guide.

 

I think so too. Although, a staff member would probably say that
"standard" covers standards, recommended practices and guides.

 

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Geoff Thompson [gthompso@nortel.com]                              Sun
5/28/2006 5:49 PM

 

[Addresses John Barr note]

 

Text from an old version:

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LMSC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REVISED JULY 16, 2004

FILE: LMSC_P&P_JULY_2004_R0.DOC

 

8.2.3 Interim Session Financial Reporting A WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup
shall prepare and submit all financial reports required by IEEE,
IEEE-SA, Computer Society and LMSC regulations on any of its interim
sessions for which fees were collected and that did not comply with all
of the following requirements. 

 

1. The WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup was not the Host of the session. 

2. The Host complied with the definition of a host in Section 6.2.1 of
these P&P. 

3. Neither the WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup nor any of its officers had any
financial responsibility for the session including any deficit or
penalties. 

4. Neither the WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup nor any of its officers handled
and/or had or exercised any control over any funds either received for
the session or disbursed to pay the expenses of the session including
penalties. 

5. Neither the WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup nor any of its officers had
and/or exercised any decision authority over the disposition of any
surplus funds from the session. 

6. Neither the WG/TAG or WG/TAG subgroup nor any of its officers have or
had any control over or beneficial interest in any surplus funds from
the session. 

 

the case of an interim session that is hosted by a single non-IEEE
entity and for which fees are collected, the usual financial goal is for
the session to be non-deficit with a minimum surplus. A recommended way
of achieving this is for the Host to commit to a contribution to the
session and then reduce that contribution as required to minimize any
session surplus. It may be most convenient for the Host to not make the
contribution (transfer the funds) until the size of the contribution
needed to meet the non-deficit minimum surplus goal is known. If there
is a surplus, the Host may retain it or dispose of it in any manner it
chooses that does not violate item 6 above. 8.3 Registration Policy In
order for an individual to become registered for a given

 

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Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)                          Sun 5/28/2006
10:58 PM

 

Paul,

 

Sorry for the very late reply.  The 'formal title' for the position is
LMSC Recording Secretary (See 7.1.2).

 

 

 

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Matthew Sherman, Ph.D. 
Senior Member Technical Staff 
BAE SYSTEMS, NES 
Office: +1 973.633.6344 
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com 

 


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