[802SEC] RE: [802SEC] RE: Hotel room rates
Pat, What you are seeing is a limitation of the PassKey Reservation System. Dawn can assist with getting the reservation reclassified as a standard group room with an EC upgrade. We don't normally block a lot of rooms for Pre- and Post- meeting dates because of the excess liability should they not get picked up. That is usually not a problem when you book this far in advance so there are almost always plenty of rooms available. Unfortunately a 30,000 room-night city-wide convention has booked into the San Diego Convention Center at the tail of our session and as a result there are very few room available for post conference stays. We added some deluxe Tower View rooms (which were all that was left available) but those go at the $229 rate and the reservation system will therefore charge you that rate all week.
I know the hotel will not pull our rooms for ComicsCon since they have a rooms-only contract at $189/night. They'd a lot rather get $199 or $229 from us than $189 from them. There are still rooms available for Friday night but they have not been added to the PassKey system yet. We are working to encourage the hotel to overbook our rooms for Friday night because we always have a big drop-off at the last minute from folks who booked all week just in case and then checked-out early when their WG finished on Wednesday or Thursday. The other observation is if you book for check-out on Friday and then stay over an extra day there is nothing they can do except charge you for one more day at $199.
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
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From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pthaler@broadcom.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:10 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O; Geoff Thompson
Cc: stds-802-sec@IEEE.ORG; dawns@FACETOFACE-EVENTS.COM; darcel@FACETOFACE-EVENTS.COM
Subject: RE: [802SEC] RE: Hotel room rates
Buzz,
When I attempted to reserve for staying through Saturday 22 July, the reservation system would only give me the $229 rate (for the whole week). Most of our participants will probably be fine with leaving Friday but for some of our non-North America based participants in WGs that meet Friday morning and those who want to stay for the EC meeting might need to book for Friday night. It seems like the hotel might be trying to pull rooms to early from us for ComicsCon.
Pat
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[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Rigsbee, Everett O
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 12:16 PM
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Subject: [802SEC] RE: Hotel room rates
Geoff, The room rate is $199. single or double. We have a $229 rate for upgraded tower view rooms (high floors with larger floor-plans and business plan amenities). That is also the rate if you put a third adult in the same room. We are getting all of their meeting space for free at that rate. ComicsCon has no meeting space.
The $189.00 ComicsCon rate is just for soak-up rooms (to fill up any lower floor rooms that we have left unbooked). Having a slightly higher rate for us is good because the hotel will not be tempted to sell our rooms to the ComicsCon folks. And since we are in there first we can hold onto all that we have booked. Where we have trouble is when the other group is at a substantially higher rate so the incentive runs the other way.
The $199 group rate is actually a phenomenal deal given that we also have the lion's share of all of their great meeting space. Normal group rates for groups wanting meeting space run from $239 to $269 for this period. So rest assured that the rate we have is indeed an excellent rate for one of the most desirable hotels on the planet. You'll see when you get there: it's actually much better than the Denver property (which we liked so much), it's going to have great weather while we are there, and it is a perfect easy-access location. Try it, you'll like it
!!! :-)
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing IT - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortel.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:26 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
Subject: Hotel room rates
Buzz-
The room rate that we have for the July meeting is
$199 single
$229 double
per: http://ieee802.facetoface-events.com/webs/39/hotel1.php
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Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego
One Market Place
San Diego, CA USA 92101
Reservation Phone: (619) 232-1234
The July 2006 IEEE 802 LMSC Plenary Session will be held during the week of July 16-21, 2006.
IEEE 802 Group Rate: $199.00 US single or double
occupancy per night plus taxes. Each additional adult person is $30.00 US.
Dates the group rate is available: July 9-28, 2006
(based on hotel room availability).
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The hotel has 1625 rooms
Then I discovered that the Comics Convention problem is not just competition for rooms in the area but that:
#1 The Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego is an official hotel of the convention.
#2 The room rate offered to the funny book folks is less ($189 single or double) than the rate offered to us.
(See attachment, found at: http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_hotel.
<http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_hotel.shtml> shtml <http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci_hotel.shtml> )
Admittedly, there is not 100% overlap on when it happens.
ComicsCon is: In 7/19 Out 7/23
IEEE 802 is: In 7/16 Out 7/21
I thought we were supposed to be better negotiators than this, especially when we were (a) offering to fill the hotel and (b) had a substantial catering budget bundled in. How much of the hotel has Hyatt given over to ComicsCon room block?
Geoff Thompson
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