Re: [802SEC] Latest Rev of WG Membership and Meeting P&P Revision
Yes, I was confused. I've got it now and will put out an update.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:43 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Latest Rev of WG Membership and Meeting P&P
Revision
Mat -
I don't know what you are looking at, but I was NOT referring to appeal
procedures. I was looking at the WG election procedures text on page 2,
lines 18-20, which, in the PDF you circulated this morning, is NOT
struck through, but is highlighted in blue and underlined. The text
reads:
"WG election procedures shall be defined within the WG P&P. Prior to
their establishment, election procedures must be reviewed and approved
by the EC before implementation."
I repeat, I cannot support the document in its current form.
Regards,
Tony
At 17:09 17/11/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. \(US SSA\) wrote:
In the PDF I circulated (and I think the prior version as well) those
words are struck through. At least they are on my screen when I view
the PDF. Is this not the case for you? Not that the strike through
does not carry forward when I copy the text from the PDF (see below).
However it is struck through in the PDF.
Mat
WG appeal procedures shall be defined within the WG P&P. Prior to
establishment of the WG P&P, 17
appeals may be made to the EC. Actions of the WG itself may always be
appealed to the EC.
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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From: Tony Jeffree [mailto:tony@jeffree.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:01 PM
To: Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA)
Cc: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Latest Rev of WG Membership and Meeting P&P
Revision
Mat -
I thought that you had agreed to remove the wording:
"WG election procedures shall be defined within the WG P&P. Prior to
their establishment, election procedures must be reviewed and approved
by the EC before implementation."
It still seems to be in the document that you circulated - I just copied
it from the PDF. What is going on here?
I absolutely will not support the changes as described in what you have
circulated.
Regards,
Tony
At 14:41 17/11/2005, Sherman, Matthew J. (US SSA) wrote:
Folks,
Attached please find the latest rev based on most recent comments. I've
restored the original language for loss of membership based on
attendance, but retained added commentary. I won't say it is perfect,
but believe it is an improvement over the rules we currently operate
under. Note that I am still tightening the requirement to gain
membership from 2/4 to 2/3. I've heard general support for that on the
EC. I have not polled the membership, but it really has no direct
impact on members (just wanna be members).
I WILL HOLD A 6 PM P&P MEETING in the Dover room (4th floor Hyatt). If
you have any concerns please bring them forward to me. I don't want to
make any further textual changes at this point, but if I know there is a
sensitivity I will partition key text out of the main revision so it can
be voted separately. I DO NOT plan to have motions to divide. I will
simply bring separate sections of text to the floor for consideration.
Based on feedback at the P&P open mike session, I plan to bring forward
a P&P revision to permit separate WG Plenary sessions. These would
replace well planned and long standing interim sessions. I believe it
can directly address some of the issues we are trying to address
indirectly with the membership rules. Remember that this will not be a
approve the specific wording I bring forward (which will have had
limited review). But to agree to deeply consider the change, and
determine it's scope.
I'll follow up with more data in a while.
Mat
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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Regards,
Tony
Regards,
Tony
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