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Re: [802SEC] +++EC email ballot+++ motion to delay release of 802.18 communication+++ends 3 OCT 2005+++final tally

Paul,

Is there some way that we can consider the 5 day P&P period to have already been allowed to run? While what you suggest meets the "letter of the law," we have already seen the document. I don't think that the fact that the validity of the vote in the TAG was questioned and the vote had to be rerun raises any issues that need a new review period. Perhaps we need a day to see the results of the new ballot and then can move on.

Regards,
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET] 
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:54 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++EC email ballot+++ motion to delay release of 802.18 communication+++ends 3 OCT 2005+++final tally

Dear EC members,

Given the failure of the motion, I occurs to me that I must clarify what 
state the 802.18 TAG communication is in; it is pending final approval by 
the TAG and the EC.

My rationale is as follows.  The motion to delay the release until the I 
made a ruling failed.  However there was ambiguoity in my mind as to whether 
or not adequate TAG approval had been reached in the first place.  Therefore 
I requested the chair of the 802.18 TAG conduct an email ballot to resolve 
the ambiguoity as to whether or not adequate approval from the TAG was 
obtained for the communcation.  That ballot closed Tuesday 4OCT.   The TAG 
email ballot must receive 75% approval of all TAG members in order to be 
presented to the EC for review.  If the TAG email ballot passed and after 
Mike Lynch notifies the EC of the result it may proceed as per the P&P (i.e. 
within 5 days of notice, or after a EC motion to block fails--see P&P 
below).

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich

The 802 P&P regarding TAG communcations with governement bodies states:

"Working Group or TAG Communications
Working Group or TAG communications with government bodies shall not be 
released without prior approval by a 75% majority of the Working Group or 
TAG. Such communications may proceed unless blocked by an EC vote. For 
position statements not presented for review in an EC meeting, EC members 
shall have a review period of at least five days; if, during that time, a 
motion to block it is made, release of the position statement will be 
withheld until the motion fails. "

Upon my request the
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 5:36 PM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC email ballot+++ motion to delay release of 802.18 
communication+++ends 3 OCT 2005+++final tally


Dear EC members,

The final tally on the below motion is 6APP/4DIS/0ABS/6DNV.  Since the 
motion did not receive a majority of the EC voting members (9) the motion 
fails.

Note that Mike Lynch has conducted an email ballot of the TAG on this matter 
and will be publishing the result shortly to the EC reflector.  Mike, when 
you publish the result, please note that a majority of TAG members must vote 
in the affirmative in order for the motion to pass.

Regards,
--Paul


Vote categories:          DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
  -----------------------------------------------
  01 Mat Sherman+         DIS
  02 Pat Thaler+                         APP
  03 Buzz Rigsbee+        DIS
  04 Bob O'Hara                  DNV
  05 John Hawkins+                       APP
  06 Tony Jeffree+                       APP
  07 Bob Grow+            DIS
  08 Stuart Kerry                DNV
  09 Bob Heile                   DNV
  10 Roger Marks+         DIS
  11 Mike Takefman               DNV
  12 Mike Lynch                  DNV
  13 Steve Shellhammer+                  APP
  14 Jerry Upton+                        APP
  15 Ajay Rajkumar               DNV
  16 Carl Stevenson+                     APP

----------------------------------------------------
  TOTALS                  DIS    DNV     APP    ABS
                           4      6       6      0



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Nikolich" <paul.nikolich@ATT.NET>
To: <STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 11:16 AM
Subject: [802SEC] +++EC email ballot+++ motion to delay release of 802.18 
communication+++ends 3 OCT 2005


Dear EC Memebers,

The below EC motion has been made, recognized and seconded, hence I am 
conducting this EC email ballot.

Therefore, I move to delay release of the communication until Paul Nikolich 
has ruled on whether the requirements of 14.2 for a TAG vote have been met.
Moved: Pat Thaler
Second: Bob Grow

The ballot closes the sooner of 3 OCT 2005 or 24 hours after all EC members 
cast a ballot.

Mike Lynch--in parallel with this email ballot, I strongly encourage you to 
immediately conduct an email ballot of the 802.18 TAG members to remove all 
doubt as to whether or not the communication has received proper 
consideration by the TAG and provide timely updates to the EC such that the 
EC can observe the progress of the email ballot.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich

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