Re: [802SEC] Five day approval process
Bob,
OK, but you previously said you were concerned because "802 has working groups that develop standards for both unlicensed and licensed bands." So are you suggesting that this position would be detrimental to those addressing unlicensed bands?
Roger
At 11:37 -0700 2005-09-22, boohara@CISCO.COM wrote:
>Roger,
>
>I believe that there are conflicting interests in 802 on the subject of
>this document. It would benefit some working groups to have this
>document submitted, to the detriment of other working groups. Since
>802.18 may be perceived as voicing a common position for all wireless
>working groups, I think this is an important point to discuss.
>
>The point I was trying to make, with little success apparently, is that
>802.18 should not be submitting a position document advocating the
>change of the EC position on the use of this band for IMT-2000 that is
>currently limited in the scope of allowed technology to become
>"technology neutral". It is my belief that by advocating this position
>802.18 is requesting the EC to change a position that is currently
>beneficial to some 802 working groups to a different position that is
>detrimental to those working groups and beneficial to others.
>
>If I misunderstand the benefits of the current EC position and those of
>the position that 802.18 is advocating, I hope that Mike will enlighten
>me.
>
> -Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:56 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>
>Bob,
>
>I guessed that's what you meant, but I still don't understand your
>point. So, let me ask:
>
> >Since 802 has working groups that develop standards for both unlicensed
>and licensed bands
>
>What is the relevance of this fact? Do you mean that, for this reason,
>802.18 should have no position on the use of licensed bands?
>
>>I find it curious that 802.18 is advocating this position
>
>What position is it that you find curious?
>
>>when the EC has indicated that it leans toward a single technology in
>this band
>
>I'm confused. It seems to me that the EC is, to a large degree, asking
>for comments on whether the band should be used for a single technology.
>802.18 is saying, in essence, that it should not. You seem to be saying
>that 802.18 should not take such a position because the EC is leaning
>the other way. I don't think this is what you mean, but I can't tell.
>
>
>Maybe either you or I have some misunderstanding of the subject. I did
>some research to figure out exactly what prompted this 802.18 document.
>The source, I believe, is here:
>
>http://europa.eu.int/information_society/policy/radio_spectrum/current/i
>ndex_en.htm
>
>Search on that page for "2.6 GHz".
>
>Roger
>
>
>At 09:28 -0700 2005-09-22, boohara@CISCO.COM wrote:
>>Hmmm... Reading this after it was reflected back to me, I realize that
>>"EC" is ambiguous. My meaning is "European Commission".
>>
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bob O'Hara [boohara@cisco.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:51 AM
>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>>
>>Mike,
>>
>>Since 802 has working groups that develop standards for both unlicensed
>>and licensed bands, I find it curious that 802.18 is advocating this
>>position when the EC has indicated that it leans toward a single
>>technology in this band. Can you provide me with some of the reasoning
>>that led .18 to come to this conclusion?
>>
>>Also, I have not seen an answer to the question asked of you on how
>many
>>members of 802.18 were present at the vote approving the document. Can
>>you provide that answer?
>>
>> -Bob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Michael Lynch [mailto:mjlynch@NORTEL.COM]
>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:03 AM
>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>Subject: [802SEC] Five day approval process
>>
>>Please find enclosed 802.18's comments in response to the European
>>Commission 2.6 GHz consultation. The comment period closes 15 September
> >but the membership believes it is beneficial to file a response. This
>>was approved by unanimous consent.
>>I would like to be able to forward this the European Commission on 25
>>September.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>+1 972 814 4901
>>
>> <<18-05-0033-r0-0000-EC_2.6GHz_Band_Consultation Response.doc>>
>>
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