Re: [802SEC] criteria for posting information to EC reflector
Roger, I must agree; I think that there is probably more on the Atlanta Proposal page than what should wind-up going public. The only thing that needs to go public is the posted Group Room Rate. The other deals and concessions should be removed.
Bob O'Hara, Can you excise either the confidential material or the whole sheet to a protected EC area ???
Thanx, Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
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everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:r.b.marks@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 11:23 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] criteria for posting information to EC reflector
This is getting to the reason I raised the issue in the first place. Suppliers don't like to publicize their best offers. If we get a reputation as having loose lips, we are less likely to get the best deals in the future. This is why I want us to remain circumspect about our deals. I'd prefer that we not publicly posts the details of hotel offers, including special offers, freebies, commissions, etc.
Roger
At 18:52 -0700 2005-07-26, Rigsbee, Everett O wrote:
>Pat, I have had hotels request that we keep our quoted room rate
>confidential until we post it on the web for reservation information, presumably because we have such a great rate that they don't want other groups that are paying higher rates to find out until later. I have never seen them try to enforce that provision. So I'm sure if it was in our committee documents they would not object. They just don't want us to advertise it around to other groups.
>
>I have had cases where organizers from other groups called me up to find out why they were paying so much more per night for their group. I could just say, "Stupidity", but I usually give them some plausible reason, which they are always delighted to hear. No one likes to think they got ripped-off, even if they did. :-)
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA 98124-2207
>(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
>Cell: (425) 417-1022
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pat_thaler@agilent.com [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 5:52 PM
>To: Rigsbee, Everett O; STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: RE: [802SEC] criteria for posting information to EC reflector
>
>
>I'm not sure what you include in "price quotes". I think it is
>reasonable to include room night rate and registration fee as the
>summaries you gave us did. Also, not to exceed numbers for motions
>authorizing expenditures.
>
>Regards,
>Pat
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@BOEING.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, 26 July, 2005 4:06 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] criteria for posting information to EC reflector
>
>Paul, Unfortunately, I would have to say that it varies from one
>summary to the next. I would exclude anything that includes specific price quotes (or remove that portion of the message prior to posting).
>
>I would say we need to rely on the submitter to identify the sensitive
>material and to use an EC-Members-Only distribution list for that material so that it will not be placed in the public archive.
>
>
>Thanx, Buzz
>Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
>Boeing - SSG
>PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
>Seattle, WA 98124-2207
>(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
>Cell: (425) 417-1022
>everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:paul.nikolich@ATT.NET]
>Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 6:18 AM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: [802SEC] criteria for posting information to EC reflector
>
>
>Dear EC Members,
>
>Roger has brought up an interesting issue with respect to whether or
>not it is appropriate to put the attachment with high level contract
>terms in Buzz's motion on the reflector. I decided it was acceptable
>because the EC has had similar information from Buzz included in their
>minutes in the past.
>
>The larger question of exactly what is acceptable to post onto the
>reflector remains, however. We don't have any crisp guidelines. I
>would like to hear from the EC members on what they think is an
>appropriate set of guidelines on this topic, then I'll include it in
>the chair's guidelines document.
>
>To get the list started, in my opinion the following information should
>be kept private:
>
>a) final vendor contracts for review and approval (on the other hand,
>high-level summary of terms and conditions are appropriate for posting)
>
>b) any personal information (all reflector traffic should be strictly
>802 business related)
>
>c) any information that has been explicitly deemed 'confi-blah and/or
>proprie-blah'
>
>d) any information the EC has explicitly decided to be of 'executive
>privilege'
>
>Regards,
>
>--Paul
>
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