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Re: [802SEC] BPL Project



Steve,

I haven't seen a response to my emails on this subject. Did you not get them? The SB and SA operating rules do appear to have the latitude to allow IEEE 802 to be an entity member of a ballot.

Regards,
Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Mills, Steve M (Standards) [mailto:steve_mills@HP.COM] 
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July, 2005 11:30 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] BPL Project

Geoff,

If it is an issue of coordination, let's address that problem.  

I assume we understand and agree that a stronger coordination process is a two-way street.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@NORTEL.COM]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 4:30 PM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] BPL Project


Steve-

Thanks for your reply.
I will see if I can pursue it. I do believe that the issue is a larger 
issue than just this project. I think it is a matter of a deficiency in 
IEEE internal provisions for coordination, which are weak at best.

I'm not worried about access to the process for my company (or my own views 
via my company). I am worried about 802's ability as a (legitimate) 
materially interested party to express its opinion on the upper layer 
issues on this project, even though I expect most of the controversy to 
surround PHY and transmission media issues.

Geoff


At 09:05 AM 7/23/2005 , Mills, Steve M (Standards) wrote:
>Geoff,
>
>I would encourage you to take it to ANSI.  Speaking for myself, and not
>the CAG, I feel it is within the bounds of what ANSI would deem
>appropriate.  I believe that there are many other organizations that
>have similar policies; INCITS and ATIS being examples.
>
>In any case, taking it to ANSI would give us a definitive answer.  And,
>if we are found to be in violation, we can fix it.  Otherwise, I would
>invite you to participate through your company; who, as you know, is a
>member.
>
>Steve
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@NORTEL.COM]
>Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 3:24 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] BPL Project
>
>
>Steve-
>
>I would like to note for the record that I consider the denial of access
>to
>802 to voting is denial of participation to a "materially interested
>party"
>and thus  potentially grounds for an appeal of the IEEE process to ANSI.
>
>The IEEE needs to get this fixed. We have a legitimate interest in this
>project.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>At 02:54 PM 7/22/2005 , Shellhammer, Steve wrote:
> >802 EC,
> >
> >
> >
> >             Paul asked me to look into the possibility of 802 joining
> >the broadband over power-line (BPL) sponsor ballot as an entity.  This
> >item is in the Information Items on today's agenda.  Attached is a
> >summary of the report which can be placed in the minutes.
> >
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
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