Re: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - rules.
Bob-
One would hope that a meeting such as that would have some records kept in
the future. I think that is a surmountable problem.
Geoff
At 04:50 PM 7/26/2005 , Bob O'Hara \(boohara\) wrote:
>Geoff,
>
>That addresses only the one part of the problem, advance notice. There
>is still the problem of minutes.
>
>
> -Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@NORTEL.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:32 PM
>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and
>things.
>
>Bob-
>
>So we can (at least) fix the "problem" of the rules comment resolution
>meeting by making it a standing meeting (until it runs out of work :^)
>
>Mat, can you fix this?
>
>Geoff
>
>
>At 03:42 PM 7/26/2005 , Bob O'Hara (boohara) wrote:
> >One problem I have with EC teleconferences is that they are not "open".
> >There are usually a very limited number of phone ports and the meeting
> >announcement often does not meet our requirement for 30-day advance
> >notice. In addition, I don't think I have ever seen anyone provide
> >minutes of one of these teleconferences.
> >
> >So, without an agreement to handle these as the actual meetings of the
> >EC that they are, I would argue strongly against this.
> >
> >Come to think of it, there are a number of other "meetings" that do not
> >meet these requirements, as well. At least one of them is the P&P
> >comment resolution meeting.
> >
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@QUALCOMM.COM]
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:28 PM
> >To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >Subject: Re: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and
> >things.
> >
> >Pat,
> >
> > I think we can get lots of discussion done in EC
>teleconferences
> >and make the decisions at the plenary meetings. Clearly people have to
> >attend. I do not believe there have been any meetings on topics other
> >than the P&P changes (e.g. meeting locations). I would say we should
> >leave it up to the person leading the effort. If they want to have it
> >spill over after the meeting that is fine. If they want to prepare
> >before the meeting that is fine also, maybe even better.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Pat Thaler [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 2:43 PM
> >To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> >Subject: [802SEC] Coping with agenda time limits - hotels and things.
> >
> >We will probably find our EC meeting time available at plenaries to be
>a
> >tight squeeze. However, our attempts to do teleconferences on specific
> >topics (e.g. meetings and rules) have not been successful at getting
> >critical mass attendance. EC topic meetings Sunday evening and during
> >the week also find this a challenge.
> >
> >We can have the topic meetings but there is a large chance of getting
>to
> >the EC meeting and finding out those who didn't attend disagree.
> >
> >I think there are two viable options:
> >What we are doing right now - spill over the leftovers to email
> >discussion and vote where at least we are getting good participation
> >even if we sometimes get a little testy with each other and sometimes
> >have to grope around on how to handle equivalents of the parliamentary
> >procedures we would do during a meeting.
> >
> >All agree to a fixed time and day before the meeting when we would have
> >regular "virtual" EC meeting over phone and meeting software (e.g.
> >MeetingPlace) with a similar commitment to showing up to be part of the
> >quorum as we have during the opening and closing EC meetings. I expect
> >Tony will point out that this would be difficult to schedule
> >conveniently for EC members outside North American time zones. Also
> >openness issues would have to be addressed and we would need a rules
> >change to do this.
> >
> >I think the first tool is adequate for most of what we have and we are
> >still learning to use it well. I suggest sticking with email for now.
> >
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