Re: [802SEC] Updated P&P Revision Ballots
I agree with Jerry's view on the timing of membership changes taking effect.
I would be in the same position as Jerry should this take effect
immediately. While I support the intent of the proposed change, I think it
is manifestly unfair to remove someone's voting rights without giving them
notice and an opportunity to take action to maintain their voting rights
under the new rules - and could subject us to appeals or liability.
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry1upton@AOL.COM [mailto:Jerry1upton@AOL.COM]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:15 AM
> To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Updated P&P Revision Ballots
>
> Matt,
> Without a "Notice Period" to our members, I cannot support
> the proposed
> change in the Working Group Membership ballot regarding
> Section 7.2.3.2 Loss.
> If we approve this change and it goes into effect following
> this Plenary, I
> will need to remove current Voters from the roll without any
> notice. It would
> seem fair to tell members in advance so that they could
> participate in another
> meeting(s) to retain their rights.
> I suggest we give notice to our members. If approved, this
> change should go
> into effect after the November Plenary, so people can have an
> opportunity to
> retain their voting rights.
>
> Secondly in the Misc. Ballot, Section 13 seems in conflict
> with Section 1
> regarding Robert's Rules of Order. However, this may be just
> my view of the
> wording. Please give me your views.
> Regards,
> Jerry Upton
>
> In a message dated 7/19/2005 2:01:59 AM Central Standard Time,
> matthew.sherman@BAESYSTEMS.COM writes:
> Folks,
>
> Here they are. I have attached 5 files which are the fully
> updated P&P
> Revisions. Note that the revision titled 'WG Term Limits" is one
> paragraph divided from the WG Membership and Meetings ballot per Bob
> Grow's request.
>
> Please review these files. If you do not believe you can
> vote 'APPROVE'
> on some of the files, please let me know by WEDNESDAY!
> Please also let
> me know what particular text offends you. I will divide out any
> controversial text and have it voted separately. That way we can still
> get some productive changes through.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mat
>
>
> Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
> Senior Member Technical Staff
> BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
> Office: +1 973.633.6344
> email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
>
>
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