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Re: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P

Title: AW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P
I don't understand the member's comment at least for groups that hold interims between plenaries on a regular basis. There are three plenaries and three interims (if within the span of the most recent three plenaries means what I think it intended to mean though I think a strict reading of the wording could interpret it differently) that can count toward retaining membership in the working group. If one wants to maintain membership in two Working Groups and those two groups have concurrent interims, one can miss two of the six meetings altogether and attend one plenary and one interim for each group to retain voting rights.
 
For a member with an unusual problem that interferes with attendence (e.g a medical or family situation) a chair can use the rule above "Membership may be declared at the discretion of the Working Group chair" to resolve the issue. In my 6 years as a Working Group chair, I did that on one occasion though in the end the member's medical problem persisted and he was unable to continue.
 
Those who choose to be a voting member in two Working Groups take on a heavier burden, but they still need to be able to devote attendance to both groups to keep up with the work and be a knowledgeable voter. With the existing rule, one can retain voting rights by attending on fourth of the meetings and is just too few.
 
Regards,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG]On Behalf Of Shellhammer, Stephen J
Sent: Wednesday, 04 May, 2005 8:51 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P

Mat,

 

            I received these comments from on member of 802.19 on the proposed changes.

 

Regards,

Steve

_________________

Steve Shellhammer

Intel Corporation

(858) 391-4570

From: Kleindl Guenter [mailto:guenter.kleindl@siemens.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:06 AM
To: Shellhammer, Stephen J
Subject: AW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P

 

Dear Stephen,

I have a serious problem with the change in "7.2.3.2 Loss" and the new wording "within the span of the three most recent Plenary sessions." Whereas in the deleted "7.2.3.2 Retaintion" the wording was "two of the last four Plenary session meetings.

Reason:
If you have voting rights in 2 WGs, then with the change from "four" to "three" it becomes very hard to maintain voting rights in both WGs. For example you may miss only 1 meeting out of 9 (5 plenay, 4 interim), in ordner not to loose any voting right!!

Proposal:
Keep "four"

Kind regards Guenter

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Von: owner-stds-802-19@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-19@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] Im Auftrag von Shellhammer, Stephen J

Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2005 19:27
An: stds-802-19@IEEE.ORG
Betreff: FW: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P

IEEE 802.19 Members,

        If you have any comments on these 802 P&P changes please send
your comments to me and I will incorporate them in my response to Mat
Sherman.

Regards,
Steve

_________________
Steve Shellhammer
Intel Corporation
(858) 391-4570

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Sherman,
Matthew J. (US SSA)
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:11 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership &
Meeting P&P

Dear EC members,

Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on WG
Membership & Meeting Policies and Procedures. This ballot was approved
at the Friday March 18, 2005 EC meeting. The text is identical to that
presented at the meeting (but changes have been highlighted).  The
purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached ballot
document.

Ballot Duration:  5/2/2005 - 6/2/2005 @ 11:59 PM EST

WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your
groups, and invite them to comment through you. Please direct any
comments on this revision to the reflector for collection.

Thanks & Regards,

Mat

 

<<802.0-EC_Voting_Rules-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf>>

 

Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com

 

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