Re: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership & Meeting P&P
We seem to have a contradiction between 7.2.2 and 7.1.3, or if not strictly a contradiction, a situation where a working group could have failed to reaffirm the current chair and not be able to hold an election. Even where the current chair is empty (or the working group is new and has not yet elected a chair) 7.2.2 might block an election.
7.2.2 includes: A Working Group may elect a new Chair at any Plenary session, subject to confirmation by the LMSC Executive Committee. A motion to hold an election must be passed by 75% of the voting members of the Working Group present.
There isn't any qualification on the need for a 75% approval of a motion to hold an election. It doesn't appear to matter whether there is a sitting chair or whether we are at the March plenary of an even year. I don't think we have been applying this statement. We have been holding elections in March of even numbered years or for empty chairs without first voting on whether to hold an election, but that is what the rule says and we should correct it.
Take a case where March in an even numbered year rolls around and reaffirmation of the current chair fails 33% for and 67% against. According to 7.2.2 it now takes a 75% vote to hold an election. If the 33% don't want a new election the chair is empty - no affirmation and no election. Or the current chair may have already been chair for 8 years and the 75% vote to allow the chair to run again has failed.
Take a new working group with a high level of contention. If a faction doesn't want the group to go forward or fears that the group will elect a chair undesireable to them, they could prevent an election from occuring.
A group could be deadlocked - unable to affirm a current chair (or without a current chair) and unable to elect a new one.
I suggest we replace this text with:
A Working Group may elect a new Chair at any Plenary session, subject to confirmation by the LMSC
Executive Committee. When there is an interim chair or the current chair has resigned, an election should be held at the next plenary. In the March plenary of even numbered years, an election is held. At any other plenary a motion to hold an election must be passed by 75% of the voting members of the Working Group present.
Pat
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Subject: [802SEC] +++ LMSC P&P Revision Ballot +++ WG Membership &
Meeting P&P
Dear EC members,
Attached you will find the text for an LMSC P&P revision ballot on WG
Membership & Meeting Policies and Procedures. This ballot was approved
at the Friday March 18, 2005 EC meeting. The text is identical to that
presented at the meeting (but changes have been highlighted). The
purpose and rationale for the ballot are as given in the attached ballot
document.
Ballot Duration: 5/2/2005 - 6/2/2005 @ 11:59 PM EST
WG/TAG chairs, please distribute this P&P revision ballot to your
groups, and invite them to comment through you. Please direct any
comments on this revision to the reflector for collection.
Thanks & Regards,
Mat
<<802.0-EC_Voting_Rules-P&P_Revision_ballot.pdf>>
Matthew Sherman, Ph.D.
Senior Member Technical Staff
BAE SYSTEMS, CNIR
Office: +1 973.633.6344
email: matthew.sherman@baesystems.com
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