Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom Notice +++++++++++++
I'm DHCP and I've used Netmeeting so I don't think that is accurate. Pat
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From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
Behalf Of Mike Takefman
Sent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 5:17 AM
To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom Notice
+++++++++++++
I don't care what the client is. The advantage of Messenger (either
yahoo or msn) is that it is relayed. Netmeeting requires that we
know the IP address of everyone in the call, and many corporate
firewalls would make that impossible.
mike
Carl R. Stevenson wrote:
> While I see value in Mike's proposal, I would prefer to use MS Messenger or
> Netmeeting, rather than anything hosted through Yahoo ...
>
> 1) I don't want to have to install yet another IM client
> 2) I have heard reports of onerously prying cookies, etc.
>
> Carl
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>>[mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mike Takefman
>>Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:00 PM
>>To: STDS-802-SEC@listserv.ieee.org
>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++++++++ P&P Ballot Resolution Telecom
>>Notice +++++++++++++
>>
>>Mat,
>>
>>while I have no objection to continuing to persue P&P
>>resolution via teleconference I recognize the difficulty in
>>scheduling around all of the participants schedules and I
>>hope we can find a reasonable common time.
>>
>>I would personally like to see 1 major change to the methodology.
>>
>>When .17 has teleconference calls, we use Yahoo Messenger to
>>create a text conference room for all participants. This
>>allows the moderator or commenter to cut and paste their
>>proposed text for all to see. We are able to achieve
>>concensus on word smithing issues far quicker since people
>>can actually read the proposed text.
>>
>>In the case of a poor bridge, IM also allows, a method for a
>>participant to object or request the floor. Some bridges I've
>>been on (with many participants) do not mix the signals well
>>and tend to give the "loudest" speaker the floor, drowning
>>out other voices.
>>
>>Yahoo Messenger is free, and most (but not all) corporations
>>allow it to pass through their firewalls. All that is
>>required is that the moderator have all of the participants
>>on his contact list so that he/she can create the conference
>>room and add people as they arrive.
>>
>>cheers,
>>
>>mike
>
>
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