Here is an email from Jesse Walker that he
requested I forward to the SEC reflector. Please include Jesse on any
reply messages.
Steve
From: Walker, Jesse
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004
11:09 AM
To: Shellhammer, Stephen J
Subject: FW: Plenary Meeting
locations
Could
you forward this to the SEC list? The list server rejected my e-mail since I
don’t belong to SEC.
From: Walker, Jesse
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004
11:05 AM
To: 'Rigsbee, Everett O'; Bruce
Kraemer ; p.nikolich@ieee.org
Cc: stuart.kerry@PHILIPS.COM; 802
@F2F Dawn S; Darcel Moro @F2F; 802 @F2F Jennifer Hull; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Plenary Meeting
locations
Does
anyone have statistics on the number of people who signed up for the meetings
but then canceled due to visa problems? If not, how are we going to determine
how much of a problem U.S.
plenaries are causing? If so, can you share the statistics with us? This would
be useful information to apply to lobbying efforts to reform the U.S. visa
rules.
From: Rigsbee, Everett
O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004
10:00 AM
To: Bruce Kraemer ;
p.nikolich@ieee.org
Cc: stuart.kerry@PHILIPS.COM; Walker, Jesse; 802 @F2F Dawn S; Darcel Moro @F2F;
802 @F2F Jennifer Hull; 802 Exec
Subject: RE: Plenary Meeting
locations
Bruce, This issue has been discussed
at length by the 802 ExecComm and the following observations were noted:
1. It is extremely difficult and expensive
to hold 802 Plenary sessions for 1600+ individuals in non-North American
locations because of the lack of large facilities, and the difficulty in
coordinating with multiple foreign venues. The cost problems have been
severely aggravated by the recent decline of the US dollar, and many of our
attendees already claim that the cost of attending 802 Plenaries is too high
for their company. The US
is currently a relative bargain for foreign travelers and we do have some
excellent facilities scheduled.
2. However IEEE 802 has a strong
desire to show itself to be a truly international organization by holding
sessions abroard.
3. WG's have been doing that
successfully with their smaller interim sessions, but it would still be
important to have an all-802 session abroad.
4. Therefore IEEE 802 will make a
best effort attempt to hold an 802-Hosted Interim meeting for all 802 WGs in a
non-North American venue (now currently targeted for January 2007).
Choices with estimated costs for venues for this meeting will be presented at
our March 2005 Plenary in Atlanta,
GA. We are still expecting
our new China Liaison, Roger Marx, to provide some sponsor contacts for
possible venues inside China
itself.
I hope this helps to address your
concerns.
Thanx,
Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA 98124-2207
(425) 865-2443 Fx: (425) 865-6721
Cell: (425) 417-1022
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Kraemer [mailto:bruce.kraemer@conexant.com]
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004
6:10 AM
To: p.nikolich@ieee.org
Cc: stuart.kerry@PHILIPS.COM;
jesse.walker@intel.com; Rigsbee, Everett O;
owner-stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Plenary Meeting locations
Dear SEC,
- I was checking meeting dates
and noticed that all of the upcoming 802 Plenaries are scheduled for US
locations through 2009! (I
include Vancouver)
- I also noted the following news
article last week from China Tech News. While highly biased it does illustrate
my point.
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WAPI Proposal Finally Acknowledged By
International Organization
December 9, 2004
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After many ups and downs, the
Chinese-sponsored WAPI (Wireless LAN Authentication and Privacy
Infrastructure) standard has seen a new twist--it has finally been
acknowledged by the International Standardization Organization during the
ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 session.
WAPI will be pushed within ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 along with America's
IEEE 802.11i, and WAPI will be put on the agenda of the SC 6 WG1 meeting
scheduled for February 2005.
Local reports say that the Chinese delegation successfully made their bid by
forcing the US
side to issue a statement that both WAPI and 802.11i can be deployed
together.
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- Although the IEEE 802 may wish
to call itself an inter-national standards body it has been pointed out
many times that such a view is not universally held. 802 needs to
seriously consider changing meeting venues as one means to back up the
rhetoric. The individual working groups have been more proactive in
distributing their meeting locations which obviously helps but is not
sufficient. Please consider including inter-national 802 plenary
locations as soon as possible.
Regards,
Bruce Kraemer
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